The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (quality of life, legal, safer)

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by seain dublin

I absolutely agree with you, it's very easy for very responsible people to start to find themselves in trouble if they lose their job, if it comes down to feeding yourself or your kids vs. paying the Visa bill, you're going to get groceries.

But people who have invested more in something whether it be a house, a car, or a relationship or a marriage are going to make more effort than someone who has invested nothing.

When I say "whatever it takes" I don't mean robbing a bank to pay the mortgage, but like I just said when you have more of yourself(in this case your money), most will make more of an effort to hold onto it than someone who put zero down.

True as a broad generalization ... lots of exceptions. That was my point.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

I'm not getting your meaning here ... rephrase/explain?

I'll DM you.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

I can “admit” that building the camps is generous in and of itself.

What's "generous" about it? And once again, how is it providing more than shelters do currently?

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

We have no duty to do anything for bums.

If you really believe that, there's not much point in discussing the topic.

"A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members." -Pope John Paul II

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

I can “admit” that building the camps is generous in and of itself. We have no duty to do anything for bums. If people need short term assistance, our existing systems could be enhanced. No matter what, accepting the status quo as a way of life is not an option. They need to be removed and assistance must only be short term.

You should run for political office, you're a natural.

Originally Posted by CA4Now

What's "generous" about it? And once again, how is it providing more than shelters do currently?



If you really believe that, there's not much point in discussing the topic.

"A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members." -Pope John Paul II

Well said.

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

What's "generous" about it? And once again, how is it providing more than shelters do currently?



If you really believe that, there's not much point in discussing the topic.

"A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members." -Pope John Paul II

I am not a believer, let alone a Catholic. In fact, I believe that excessive altruism is a problem in modern society.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

I am not a believer, let alone a Catholic. In fact, I believe that excessive altruism is a problem in modern society.

There is a difference between weak because of things beyond their control and stupid.

[TCROX]

"A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members." -Pope John Paul II

How about the way that jerry and the liberals treated the grandma in Koreatown? anyone think the "homeless" are the weakest members?

Let get them somewhere safe and away from everyone else till we find a better way...who knows maybe they will like being in a facility where they can get a shower and a cot and food..and health care etc...

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by TCROX

Let get them somewhere safe and away from everyone else till we find a better way...who knows maybe they will like being in a facility where they can get a shower and a cot and food..and health care etc...

They already receive all of that at a shelter. Nothing "safe" about rounding people up and putting them somewhere secluded.

[jm1982]

L.A. County's homeless problem is worsening despite billions from tax measures

[CA4Now]

^^ from that link:

Peter Lynn, executive director of the homeless authority, said that the situation isn't as bleak as the numbers might suggest, because the county's multi-pronged homelessness initiative is still gearing up and the new funding is only starting to have an effect.

In creating the previous analysis, officials didn't know what the funding would look like. But with the passage of both measures, Lynn said, "there are very serious dollars behind filling that gap."

Now, he added, "we have a plan for deploying new permanent supportive housing through Proposition HHH and Measure H. That does give us a way forward."