The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (renter, landlord, vs)

[SportyandMisty]

Originally Posted by jm1982

L.A. County's homeless problem is worsening despite billions from tax measures

Originally Posted by CA4Now

^^ from that link:

Peter Lynn, executive director of the homeless authority, said that the situation isn't as bleak as the numbers might suggest, because the county's multi-pronged homelessness initiative is still gearing up and the new funding is only starting to have an effect.

In creating the previous analysis, officials didn't know what the funding would look like. But with the passage of both measures, Lynn said, "there are very serious dollars behind filling that gap."

Now, he added, "we have a plan for deploying new permanent supportive housing through Proposition HHH and Measure H. That does give us a way forward."

Let's imagine the homeless problem were solved.

Now, what would Peter Lynn do for a living?

In the real world, Peter Lynn has zero incentive to solve the problem, because solving it puts him out of a job.

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Two fairly simple solutions to the homeless problem:

1. Via the state initiative process, pass a proposition that states: If the homeless rate exceeds X%, no State or Local elected representative is eligible for re-election and every state and local public sector employee has their pension docked by Y%. The homeless problem will be solved within 18 months.

2. Instead of homeless camps in the desert, give the homeless suitcases & one-way bus tickets to Washington DC.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by SportyandMisty

Let's imagine the homeless problem were solved.

Now, what would Peter Lynn do for a living?

In the real world, Peter Lynn has zero incentive to solve the problem, because solving it puts him out of a job.

Not so. If he were viewed as a successful force in resolving such an incredible challenge he'd easily move on and up through any number of social development programs .

I'm not defending the guy ... just sayin

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Your link states that evicted tenants get relocation assistance only under certain circumstances.

Los Angeles landlords are required to pay relocation assistance when they are evicting a tenant for the following most relevant reasons:

1. Eviction for occupancy of the unit by landlord, landlord’s spouse, grandchild, child, parents, grandparents, or resident manager.
2. Eviction under the Ellis Act. (going out of the rental business)
3. Eviction due to primary renovation of the unit.
4. Eviction pursuant to a government order’s Notice to Vacate.

As a landlord who actually owns rental property (have you managed a rental?), that would cover 90% of most non-problem evictions.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

"A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members." -Pope John Paul II

"By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return." - The Boss of Pope John Paul III

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by TCROX

getting them off the street provides unmatchable safety and stability for them and the taxpayers who are paying for all they do anyhow... maybe some will get a new lease on life once they get away from the left wing crime advocates and nanny staters..
Much much safer and more humane than letting them wander around - which really means more blight and crime....again... why do you think the liberals are so opposed to giving them a nice place to stay where they are no longer a harm to themselves and others?
lets really get the dems and rinos out this time...please.

Facts.

Keeping the status quo almost assuredly guarantees these homeless an early death, or a life with absolutely no chance or incentive for upward mobility. Just a dependent population that will live in squalor.

Totally inhumane.

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

I am not a believer, let alone a Catholic. In fact, I believe that excessive altruism is a problem in modern society.

You don't have to be a Catholic or a believer to have some humanity and empathy.

Originally Posted by majoun

There are no more RINOs in L.A. There are barely any moderate Dems left. Both would be an improvement over what we have. It's just left and farther left.

So not true. Because of the lunatic fringe on both the extreme left(and in other parts of the country the extreme right), many today don't discuss their views, because they don't want to get physically assaulted.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by seain dublin

You don't have to be a Catholic or a believer to have some humanity and empathy.

It's not a "humanity and empathy" issue. Why is it always framed as such?

It's a "resources and money" issue.

Sure, it would be nice if all these homeless people had top tier mental health care, housing, and 3 square meals a day.

Now how do you pay for it? Tell us all how we can pay for all of this for all of the homeless in all cities.

[SportyandMisty]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Not so. If he were viewed as a successful force in resolving such an incredible challenge he'd easily move on and up through any number of social development programs .

I'm not defending the guy ... just sayin

I get your point, and my post was partly in jest. My real point is that incentives matter. It is also quite hard to design incentives such that they don't accidentally promote unintended consequences.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

It's not a "humanity and empathy" issue. Why is it always framed as such?

It's a "resources and money" issue.

Sure, it would be nice if all these homeless people had top tier mental health care, housing, and 3 square meals a day.

Now how do you pay for it? Tell us all how we can pay for all of this for all of the homeless in all cities.

Right . As housing costs have skyrocketed and it becomes difficult for even college educated folks with decent jobs to a afford L.A , I think they will have less desire to fund homeless housing at $350,000 per unit or more.

Especially as it’s now coming out more about all the crime the homeless are committing . Including random assaults on innocent people .

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by SportyandMisty

Let's imagine the homeless problem were solved.

Now, what would Peter Lynn do for a living?

In the real world, Peter Lynn has zero incentive to solve the problem, because solving it puts him out of a job.

With his expertise, he moves into another area. Or if he doesn't do his job, he's out. That IS the real world.

https://www.lahsa.org/leadership