Did L.A.'s law that makes it illegal for the homeless to sleep in their vehicles help the problem?

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by jm1982

https://www.lacity.org/for-residents...eles-municipal

well it looks like they allow it but put restrictions on where you can park which seems fair to me. I wish more cities would have dedicated parking lots like they do in Santa Barbara for people to sleep in their cars or RV's Lot's of older people stay there because it's safe and there are porta potties
Living in a parking lot amid Santa Barbara's wealth is a kind of middle-class homelessness

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by 2Easy

There’s nothing in that law that makes sleeping in your vehicle illegal. It’s about living in your vehicle. Using your vehicle as a domicile. Whether you are asleep or awake.

I wonder what criteria they use to determine whether your car is your domicile or if you are just temporarily sleeping in it? Would it require having food and extra clothes in the car or what?

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

well it looks like they allow it but put restrictions on where you can park which seems fair to me. I wish more cities would have dedicated parking lots like they do in Santa Barbara for people to sleep in their cars or RV's Lot's of older people stay there because it's safe and there are porta potties
Living in a parking lot amid Santa Barbara's wealth is a kind of middle-class homelessness

A good idea for a reasonable period of time, but not an extended one like 9 months.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by expatCA

A good idea for a reasonable period of time, but not an extended one like 9 months.

Better in a vehicle in a parking lot even if it's longer than 9 months than on the sidewalk laying on a piece of cardboard for 10 or 15 years.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Better in a vehicle in a parking lot even if it's longer than 9 months than on the sidewalk laying on a piece of cardboard for 10 or 15 years.

True, except in a parking lot for an extended period of time would indicate a habit that keeps them away from work or no interest in working and would draw even more to the lots. Temporary fixes are good, but simply aiding and abetting the lifestyle is not as it actually hurts them more than helps them.

Plus people on cardboard have no RV in the first place, so the lots won't help them.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by expatCA

True, except in a parking lot for an extended period of time would indicate a habit that keeps them away from work or no interest in working and would draw even more to the lots. Temporary fixes are good, but simply aiding and abetting the lifestyle is not as it actually hurts them more than helps them. Plus people on cardboard have no RV in the first place, so the lots won't help them.

You might want to read the link to the article about the Santa Barbara parking lot, 40% are employed and 35% are senior citizens. It's much easier to work if you have a safe place to sleep and even easier if you have an RV where you can shower and change clothes. And I am not sure that by providing that parking lot any horrible lifestyles are being aided and abetted

Aiding and abetting horrible lifestyles?

"Cassie Roach, the program coordinator, said 40% of the clients are employed, 35% are seniors and 30% are disabled. Six families live in vehicles with at least one minor, and only 25% of the clients have RVs, so the others are sleeping in smaller quarters." Living in a parking lot amid Santa Barbara's wealth is a kind of middle-class homelessness