L.A. Metro will study how to make driving more expensive so they can pick your pockets to pay for the Olympics (pricing, stadiums)

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by ketch89

But you don't pay for the congestion you cause, or the air you pollute. That's what congestion pricing addresses - your affect on others.

Commuters that commute long distances already pay more . They pay more for gas as they have to purchase more gallons and they have to pay more on wear and tear on their vehicles .

They pay more in insurance , more miles you drive the higher the insurance is .

These people are commuting to jobs because they can’t afford to live closer to work . So it is really adding insult to injury to poor and middle class people .

It’s bad for the economy too as it’s one more thing that’ll make L.A a less desirable place to do business . Along with $15 min wage and tons of red tape .
Also a less desirable place to live especially if someone was on the fence about moving .

[ketch89]

Congestion pricing helps the poor get to their jobs. It's hard to live 50 miles from work when traffic is stop-and-go. It's hard to get to work at all if you're too poor to own and maintain a car. Polls of the poor indicate they support tolling.


https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/congestionp...ces/equity.htm


Transportation equity: Why peak period road pricing is fair | City Observatory


https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._for_Stockholm

[sean1the1]

Originally Posted by ketch89

Congestion pricing helps the poor get to their jobs. It's hard to live 50 miles from work when traffic is stop-and-go. It's hard to get to work at all if you're too poor to own and maintain a car. Polls of the poor indicate they support tolling.


https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/congestionp...ces/equity.htm


Transportation equity: Why peak period road pricing is fair | City Observatory


https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._for_Stockholm

Exactly! Traffic congestion cost the city of LA $19 Billion dollars, and the average driver wasted $2,800 in wasted time and fuel. Whatever they charge for congestion pricing I can guarantee it'll be less than $2,800. If the buses were free I'd ride them as well. It'd be a nice option they just need more direct rapid lines.

These people do not care about low income residents. Don't let them fool you just another ploy.

[Ceece]

Originally Posted by ketch89

But you don't pay for the congestion you cause, or the air you pollute. That's what congestion pricing addresses - your affect on others.

Increased gas tax, increaed registration fees, etc. have all used this as an excuse. How long have you been voting in CA?

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by ketch89

Congestion pricing helps the poor get to their jobs. It's hard to live 50 miles from work when traffic is stop-and-go. It's hard to get to work at all if you're too poor to own and maintain a car. Polls of the poor indicate they support tolling.


https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/congestionp...ces/equity.htm


Transportation equity: Why peak period road pricing is fair | City Observatory


https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._for_Stockholm

There are natives to this city who never voted to build it up. And now people like you want to take more money from us? That's so wrong on too many levels to list...

[sean1the1]

Originally Posted by Ceece

Increased gas tax, increaed registration fees, etc. have all used this as an excuse. How long have you been voting in CA?

Gas taxes to improve roads, and increased registration fees have nothing to do with congestion pricing.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by sean1the1

Gas taxes to improve roads, and increased registration fees have nothing to do with congestion pricing.

But why are people who had no say in how overdeveloped L.A. gets responsible for congestion?

[sean1the1]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

But why are people who had no say in how overdeveloped L.A. gets responsible for congestion?

If you are on the roads during congestion then yes you are partially responsible for congestion. LA is already overdeveloped there's nothing we can do about that now.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by sean1the1

If you are on the roads during congestion then yes you are partially responsible for congestion. LA is already overdeveloped there's nothing we can do about that now.

I'd say the people who made L.A. congested are responsible. I'm just a guy who was born and raised here.

[ketch89]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

I'd say the people who made L.A. congested are responsible. I'm just a guy who was born and raised here.

When were LA streets uncongested? 1910? It's a city not a rural village... The population was already over 14 million in 1990 (30 YEARS AGO). You can't expect a place with this high of a population to have uncongested streets without strong policies discouraging driving and encouraging transit.