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Old Yesterday, 09:31 AM
 
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I'm a native Angeleno, but I'm not an expert on all L.A. history.
My mind was blown this Morning. Watching a YouTube video of Old Los Angeles and there were Subways throughout L.A. in the 20s, 30s, 40 and early 50s.
The tunnels and infrastructure is still there.
I know some of you history buffs knew this, but I just had no idea. I knew about the Red Car, but not this robust subway system.
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Old Yesterday, 09:50 AM
 
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They say the automotive industry intentionally killed the subway system in LA.
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Old Yesterday, 10:28 AM
 
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Yeah its absolutely insane that they tore all the tracks out and ditched the red and yellow cars for freeways. I believe LA was right behind NY in terms of one of the best public transportation systems in the US. Probably top 5 in the world if the red/yellow cars were still operating to this very day
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Old Yesterday, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Retired in Malibu/La Quinta/Flagstaff
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They say the automotive industry intentionally killed the subway system in LA.
Urban legend.
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Old Yesterday, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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They say the automotive industry intentionally killed the subway system in LA.
See Post No 4....Patrolman is correct.
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Old Yesterday, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I'm a native Angeleno, but I'm not an expert on all L.A. history.
My mind was blown this Morning. Watching a YouTube video of Old Los Angeles and there were Subways throughout L.A. in the 20s, 30s, 40 and early 50s.
The tunnels and infrastructure is still there.
I know some of you history buffs knew this, but I just had no idea. I knew about the Red Car, but not this robust subway system.
Not sure what video you watched but I am only aware one roughly 2.0 miles of underground subway in the old inter-urban rail system which was over 1,000 miles of track but 98% above ground.

Can you post a link? Perhaps there were a few other sections underground but I am pretty certain it was very minimal.
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Old Yesterday, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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General motors was the driving force behind building freeways, and thus the rail system was done away with.
The Arroyo Seco Pkwy was the first freeway in SoCal.


Bob.
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Old Yesterday, 07:11 PM
 
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Not sure what video you watched but I am only aware one roughly 2.0 miles of underground subway in the old inter-urban rail system which was over 1,000 miles of track but 98% above ground.

Can you post a link? Perhaps there were a few other sections underground but I am pretty certain it was very minimal.
Correct, the vast majority of the old red line was at grade and very slow. There were a few tunnels under hills downtown. Most were only a block or two. The longest was the Belmont tunnel which ran for about a mile from downtown to where it ran at grade at Glendale Ave in Echo Park. It was not an extensive subway system.

Map of downtown LA from a story on KCET's website:
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Old Yesterday, 07:23 PM
 
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General motors was the driving force behind building freeways, and thus the rail system was done away with.

Bob.
Can you cite your source for that information?
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Old Today, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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General motors was the driving force behind building freeways, and thus the rail system was done away with.
The Arroyo Seco Pkwy was the first freeway in SoCal.


Bob.
Pun intended? Lol.

It was buses that replaced the red and yellow cars as public transportation due to declining ridership and improved service. Keep in mind that the streetcars traveled on the street or in their own right of way but had to stop at traffic lights. They were decent when LA had a million people but no way could they function in modern LA. Too slow and too small. Plus lots of it was single tracked with infrequent service. Other than nostalgia it’s better they’re gone. Anyone that wants to ride one for nostalgia can do so at the Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris.
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