Is LA getting trashed?

[Californiaguy2007]

That's what I don't understand,if people can't afford to live in L.A,they shouldn't move there in the first place.

It is true that many people with the $$$$ are replacing those that are leaving.

Originally Posted by DaBeez

You are totally right on this. I think that is why you hear about so many people who "lived in LA" but moved out who bad mouth us. These are the folks that couldnt cut it living here so they moved back to wherever they were from and now they are upset.

I always get a chuckle out of the posts here that say "Im moving to Los Angeles but can only afford about $500 per month rent, and I want to live in West Hollywood, Sherman Oaks, Santa Monica or Studio City". Its these types of people who end up hating it here really because they'r dreams didnt come to fruition now they moved back "home" and are bitter.

[LaoTzuMindFu]

Originally Posted by Caliguy2007

It is true that many people with the $$$$ are replacing those that are leaving.

Only in some areas and it really only applies to homeowners only. There will always be people moving here who want to get into showbiz (music, movies, television, production, etc) and they are the one's who tend to get here, struggle, get jaded, then move back home and say bad things about L.A. They are the ones who all want to live in the nicest areas because of what they see on TV but really can only afford Reseda and Van Nuys.

[jksouthbay88]

Originally Posted by mini_cute

Whenever I talk about LA to people who once lived in LA, I get the same opinion that LA is getting trashed. I honestly think so too being an ex-LA resident... born and raised... but now living in San Diego. That place has changed so much. Of course for the better in some ways, and it is still a fun place, but it seems more and more polluted, very brown, lots more dangerous neighborhoods and more graffiti. What do you guys think? Is this just my biased opinion after living in clean San Diego?

It;s cause you came to SD where everyone is all "anti-pollution" and all that other nonsense;plus SD wants a clean city.The more graffiti thing has to be true.It's all over LA now,wasn't like that 5 years ago.

[BRinSM]

Originally Posted by jksouthbay88

It;s cause you came to SD where everyone is all "anti-pollution" and all that other nonsense;plus SD wants a clean city.The more graffiti thing has to be true.It's all over LA now,wasn't like that 5 years ago.

that sounds like complete nonsense to me. I remember crossing the orange curtain into LA in the late 80s and early 90s and graffiti was much worse then. I've also been told by numerous people ***** are 20+ years older than me that smog in LA has drastically been reduced. I remember smog alert days faintly as a child, but my dad told me that they used to get them all the time when he was a kid in LA and OC.

Regarding the comments relating to SD, SD as a whole is much cleaner than LA, I don't think anyone would disagree with this. I was unaware however that everyone in SD is all "anti-pollution". I actually would believe that people in LA are more environmentally conscious, there are Priuses everywhere here on the westside. I see dozens daily. I visit SD every couple of months and hardly see any there.

[jksouthbay88]

Originally Posted by BRinSM

that sounds like complete nonsense to me. I remember crossing the orange curtain into LA in the late 80s and early 90s and graffiti was much worse then. I've also been told by numerous people ***** are 20+ years older than me that smog in LA has drastically been reduced. I remember smog alert days faintly as a child, but my dad told me that they used to get them all the time when he was a kid in LA and OC.

Regarding the comments relating to SD, SD as a whole is much cleaner than LA, I don't think anyone would disagree with this. I was unaware however that everyone in SD is all "anti-pollution". I actually would believe that people in LA are more environmentally conscious, there are Priuses everywhere here on the westside. I see dozens daily. I visit SD every couple of months and hardly see any there.

Well I did say "5 years ago"
And yes the pollution is way down.LA is never really number one anymore,I was just trying to make a statement.Well not everyone in SD is,I'm clearly one of those who just doesn't believe in it because that is not the way I was raised.I was sort of raised around pollution and things like that.So changing the world to make it "less polluted" is something I find to be B.S.But yeah there is a lot down here too.A lot of my friends are doing that "going green" crap and great for them,that's just something I don't believe in and I like living my life like this.It's what suits me.LA might have more.It's a CA thing.I went to Pittsburgh last year and the mills are still running all over the place,no one seems to care.

[CalGal953]

Originally Posted by Caliguy2007

L.A(California) has the Good and the Bad Points,but most of it in my opinion is Good

Same with my opinion!

[Charles]

Originally Posted by wesside

But as those people move out, its the people that can make it that are moving in, such as I. And these people are usually the professionals, the big money seekers, the entrepenours. People that'll be investing millions of dollars into the economy. Look at the changes downtown is making.

What are the trends? Are the increases in California population at different income (and tax paying) levels an overall producer or consumer of state revenue? Does every $200K+ income newcomer offset the 50 sub $20K income families with four kids? Are $50K to $100K families moving in or out?

The New Migration Equation - Brookings Institution

Forum - Why is California's Middle Class Deteriorating?

Paul Kedrosky: California: Schwarzenegger's $14-billion Deficit (http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/01/08/california_schw.html - broken link)