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View Poll Results: Downtown Los Angeles: Will it ever become a real vibrant and important entity?
Yes! 77 66.38%
No. 39 33.62%
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:03 AM
 
Location: New Orleans
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I was advised that east of Los Angeles St it is still a rough place to be except the part north of 3rd st. Is that largely true?

I looked up the map, and it seems that's two thirds of downtown, and western part is roughly a 1X2 mile rectangular. Still sizable, but a city like LA should have a larger downtown core where people can safety hang out, walk about and have fun.
That is true to a point...because south of Olympic hasn't been developed yet. I can see gentrification surrounding Skid Row like the tenderloin in SF. Little Tokyo still has room to grow, The Arts District does too.
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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Roughly two-quarters of downtown is where all the redevelopment is taking place, from Los Angeles Street to the 110 fwy (East to West) and from the 101 Fwy to the 10 Fwy (North to South). This represents a grid that is 2 miles by 1 mile large (or 2 square miles large).

Then you add the Fashion District (the South-East corner of DTLA) which is 1 square mile which also has plans for redevelopment in the form of new residential mid-rise buildings. That gives you 3 square miles that make up the part of DTLA that is redeveloping.

Only about a little less than 1 square mile makes up the Skid Row district where much of the homeless population resides. The heavy inflow of homeless folks will unfortunate affect the redeveloping neighborhoods. While many people will state that the majority of harmless are harmless, there are still a number of homeless who are aggressive and create a negative energy to the atmosphere of DTLA. It takes just one homeless to be tweaking out on the sidewalk to have pedestrians avoid his or her general area. This is ultimately the biggest hurdle for DTLA's growth.

The rest of DTLA nearest the LA River is light-industrial.
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:14 AM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Roughly two-quarters of downtown is where all the redevelopment is taking place, from Los Angeles Street to the 110 fwy (East to West) and from the 101 Fwy to the 10 Fwy (North to South). This represents a grid that is 2 miles by 1 mile large (or 2 square miles large).

Then you add the Fashion District (the South-East corner of DTLA) which is 1 square mile which also has plans for redevelopment in the form of new residential mid-rise buildings. That gives you 3 square miles that make up the part of DTLA that is redeveloping.

Only about a little less than 1 square mile makes up the Skid Row district where much of the homeless population resides. The heavy inflow of homeless folks will unfortunate affect the redeveloping neighborhoods. While many people will state that the majority of harmless are harmless, there are still a number of homeless who are aggressive and create a negative energy to the atmosphere of DTLA. It takes just one homeless to be tweaking out on the sidewalk to have pedestrians avoid his or her general area. This is ultimately the biggest hurdle for DTLA's growth.

The rest of DTLA nearest the LA River is light-industrial.
I agree for the most part...However, Homelessness has not stopped SF or NYC in development. In fact, this development train doesn't seem like it's stopping for anybody.
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:16 AM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Also, If you haven't seen,the NY times has DTLA at #5 on the 52 places to go in the world for 2014.
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:19 AM
 
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Homelessness did sort of stall development in SF. The areas most popular with the homeless are prime locations but have not been developed for years. SF actually has not had much development relative to the influx of wealth and people.
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:30 AM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Homelessness did sort of stall development in SF. The areas most popular with the homeless are prime locations but have not been developed for years. SF actually has not had much development relative to the influx of wealth and people.
Cause SF is NIMBY central and we are lucky DTLA is virtually NIMBY free.
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Old 01-14-2014, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Cause SF is NIMBY central and we are lucky DTLA is virtually NIMBY free.
Exactly. The homeless aren't the issue. NIMBYism and development moratoriums for years created almost no new housing units in SF. They're also why housing prices are astronomical there--so many people want to move there, especially with the ongoing tech boom, but there just aren't enough housing units for newcomers. It would take a massive increase in new development approvals over a number of years to even catch up with current demand.
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Old 01-14-2014, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Exactly. The homeless aren't the issue. NIMBYism and development moratoriums for years created almost no new housing units in SF. They're also why housing prices are astronomical there--so many people want to move there, especially with the ongoing tech boom, but there just aren't enough housing units for newcomers. It would take a massive increase in new development approvals over a number of years to even catch up with current demand.
At least they have Oakland! ...and you are seeing Oakland gentrify /get hip as I predicted it would with the close proximity to SF.
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