Downtown Los Angeles: Will it ever become a real vibrant entity? (Columbia: hotel, homes)

[nickdahammer]

Had breakfast at the Blue LA Cafe, next to Cole's at 6th and Main on Saturday morning. The area IS vibrant, you just need to get out there and walk it. You'll see pedestrians, kids, dogs being walked, cafes springing up all over the place and lots of activity.

And if you are going downtown on the weekend, which I do often, take the subway or heavy rail (Amtrak, Metrolink) and enjoy the ride.

[EDDIEISTAZ]

Originally Posted by Loftspecialist

Sounds like Mat345 is the only one on here that actually lives downtown. I've been living down here the past seven years and love it. I guess a poll could be based on opinions, but I find it hard to believe accurate if those opinions have no actual experience to draw from. There is no other place in Southern Cal that comes close to living downtown. To understand this, one must live here.

actually the wilshire corridor were i grew up is more like those eastern cities and close tho what living DT is like

AS to the original post i do agree LA will become vibrant but not all of it it will always have its bad spots like always and it places i have been there often taking the bus on wilshire all the way to downtown to visist the library when i was younger and love the fact that it was always accesible and DT la has a great transportation system just not outside of DT passing the freways and getting into the wqarehouse district but DLA will always be vibrant it is just now that some people are noticin it.

[CamaroGuy]

Originally Posted by nickdahammer

Had breakfast at the Blue LA Cafe, next to Cole's at 6th and Main on Saturday morning. The area IS vibrant, you just need to get out there and walk it. You'll see pedestrians, kids, dogs being walked, cafes springing up all over the place and lots of activity.

And if you are going downtown on the weekend, which I do often, take the subway or heavy rail (Amtrak, Metrolink) and enjoy the ride.

Its vibrant for what's considered vibrant for downtown. I certainly do not ever seeing it become like New York City.

[motoman]

Originally Posted by the one

well 10$ drinks is the standard in lots of places.

hollywood, pas, westside, DT.

it dont stop me and my friends from having a drink. but you will most likely find us at the happy hours that serve 2 to 3$ pints. 3 to 4$ bar bites.

it will still be vibrant. will it be for everyone. not yet.

i do feel protective of DT, mostly because i have been enjoying DT for more than 30 years. and i do resent some newcomers, but its ok. im fine with change. as long as the underground spots still exist. im ok.

i can always avoid the glitzy spots.

i like choices.
it will be like old town pas. you can go to 35ers or you can go to Villas.

$10 drinks are standard in many places because people in LA are shallow enough to pay it. Drink prices in LA have gone up over 30% in the last 5 years for no other reason than people have been living off of credit they cannot afford to repay, hence the economic mess we are in now.

If you and your friends are mostly going to the places with good happy hours, then you aren't really supporting the area. It's typical wanna be LA. Pretend you have money by going to places that rape your wallet, but don't buy anything from them, just be seen there.

Downtown LA will continue to improve, but to live there will only be attractive for people making significantly more than the average or median family. Currently, the median income in downtown LA is about $100,000, or about twice what it is for the entire City of LA. That means the vast majority of people in LA will never even consider downtown for anything other than working.

[nickdahammer]

Not a wanna-be, don't care about being seen. Just dig downtown. Or does that not fit into the 'shallow Angeleno' gig? Sometimes a drink is just a drink.

Originally Posted by motoman

$10 drinks are standard in many places because people in LA are shallow enough to pay it. Drink prices in LA have gone up over 30% in the last 5 years for no other reason than people have been living off of credit they cannot afford to repay, hence the economic mess we are in now.

If you and your friends are mostly going to the places with good happy hours, then you aren't really supporting the area. It's typical wanna be LA. Pretend you have money by going to places that rape your wallet, but don't buy anything from them, just be seen there.

Downtown LA will continue to improve, but to live there will only be attractive for people making significantly more than the average or median family. Currently, the median income in downtown LA is about $100,000, or about twice what it is for the entire City of LA. That means the vast majority of people in LA will never even consider downtown for anything other than working.

[that1guy]

Anyone went to the LA Art Walk this past Thursday? It was def. packed. The line in front of the Edison was too long (also at the Library Bar). Downtown is pretty vibrant, but it still has some work.

[the one]

you got me confused. i AM supporting the area. weilands has one of the best happy hours in town. its at 1st and alameda. is that not downtown? i go there for good beer and good company. as for tryin to be seen? right!!!! there is not much prestige in hanging out at a brewery. but for some reason i dont think you know what a happy hour is. thats when prices are usually half or very cheap. how is that raping my wallet?

anyhow there aint nothing wanna be about me brother. me and my folks aint shallow.

i like having a drink about town. i know i wont live downtown, but thats because i prefer having a yard. i work west of downtown. and i play in downtown (as well as other parts of town). paying what i do for drinks is just that, prices have gone up. its like the movies. we all remember dollar shows. matinees. now its 10$ to go to the movies. prices change. are you going to blame that on people wanting to be "seen" at the movies?

its ok man, DT is vibrant. it has a bit for everyone. like old town. dive bars. warehouse parties. poolside lounges. everything. even for some one like you. or me...

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Originally Posted by motoman

$10 drinks are standard in many places because people in LA are shallow enough to pay it. Drink prices in LA have gone up over 30% in the last 5 years for no other reason than people have been living off of credit they cannot afford to repay, hence the economic mess we are in now.

If you and your friends are mostly going to the places with good happy hours, then you aren't really supporting the area. It's typical wanna be LA. Pretend you have money by going to places that rape your wallet, but don't buy anything from them, just be seen there.

Downtown LA will continue to improve, but to live there will only be attractive for people making significantly more than the average or median family. Currently, the median income in downtown LA is about $100,000, or about twice what it is for the entire City of LA. That means the vast majority of people in LA will never even consider downtown for anything other than working.

[VLWH]

Your username is loft specialist and you are a real estate agent....need I say more?

Originally Posted by Loftspecialist

Sounds like Mat345 is the only one on here that actually lives downtown. I've been living down here the past seven years and love it. I guess a poll could be based on opinions, but I find it hard to believe accurate if those opinions have no actual experience to draw from. There is no other place in Southern Cal that comes close to living downtown. To understand this, one must live here.

[nickdahammer]

I agree. It won't be like Istanbul, or Rome, or London either. It is what it is. In fact, my parents moved here from the East precisely because it was NOT like Boston or NYC. Ironically, that is why alot of people ended up here back in the day.

Originally Posted by CamaroGuy

Its vibrant for what's considered vibrant for downtown. I certainly do not ever seeing it become like New York City.

[King0fthehill]

Some photos and commentary from me:

prettyugly.: Downtown Los Angeles