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Unread 07-31-2008, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Jeez, still missing my point.

Hurricanes = warning
Earthquakes = no warning

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I never said WE (because I live here to) should live in fear.

Read through every post I have made in this thread, and you will see that.

Still confused as to why this is so hard to understand, but am happy to be leaving this thread having said it for the last time.
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Unread 07-31-2008, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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Why are people in LA living on the Fault but have not moved?

Aren't they afraid that A Big Earthquake will occur?

Just asking. From Ya friend in North Carolina.
Why haven't people living along the North Carolina coast in the path of hurricanes moved yet?

Aren't they afraid that A Big Hurricane will occur?

Just asking. From Ya friend in California.
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Unread 07-31-2008, 05:54 PM
 
Location: California
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Why haven't people living along the North Carolina coast in the path of hurricanes moved yet?

Aren't they afraid that A Big Hurricane will occur?

Just asking. From Ya friend in California.
Lol.


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Unread 07-31-2008, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Jeez, still missing my point.

Hurricanes = warning
Earthquakes = no warning

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I never said WE (because I live here to) should live in fear.

Read through every post I have made in this thread, and you will see that.

Still confused as to why this is so hard to understand, but am happy to be leaving this thread having said it for the last time.
I'll be sure to tell all of those who were killed in hurricanes that they had "warning."

BTW, I am already aware of the fact you posted.
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Unread 07-31-2008, 06:22 PM
 
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The point I'm making is..... if you know a hurricane is coming and you have the resources, you can leave.....
THIS is your valid point.

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but if you are inland you are not going to lose your life
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Also, we haven't experienced the "Big One"
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I would like the statistic on how many people who have headed inland after receiving a hurricane warning were killed. Typically difficult to get killed hanging out in a mall four hours inland. How do we know the chance of being killed in an earthquake in California for a magnitude 8.0 quake if one hasn't hit yet in SoCal during the time it has been so populated....
But you introduced the concept of casualties and have continued to suggest that because there is no warning, earthquakes pose a greater risk. Statistics, whether you care to give them credence or not, will likely bear out that far more people have died in the US from hurricanes than from earthquakes in the course of the country's history. And if I can use my statistics to back up argument, perhaps you'll share yours that support your contention that earthquakes are more dangerous.

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How do we know the chance of being killed in an earthquake in California for a magnitude 8.0 quake if one hasn't hit yet in SoCal during the time it has been so populated....
Modeling and Projections

Excerpt from a May 21, 2008 report (http://cbs2.com/quake/earthquake.prep.public.2.730104.html - broken link)

"The "Big One," as earthquake scientists imagine it in a detailed, first-of-its-kind script, unzips California's mighty San Andreas Fault north of the Mexican border. In less than two minutes, Los Angeles and its sprawling suburbs are shaking like a bowl of jelly.

The jolt from the 7.8-magnitude temblor lasts for three minutes -- 15 times longer than the disastrous 1994 Northridge quake.

Water and sewer pipes crack. Power fails. Part of major highways break. Some high-rise steel frame buildings and older concrete and brick structures collapse.

Hospitals are swamped with 50,000 injured as all of Southern California reels from a blow on par with the Sept. 11 attacks and Hurricane Katrina: $200 billion in damage to the economy, and 1,800 dead."

But, you're right. You get a warning before a hurricane.
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Unread 07-31-2008, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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But, you're right. You get a warning before a hurricane.
That IS my point.

Statistics WILL support the history that a greater number of deaths have occured from hurricanes than earthquakes (though I would argue a lot of that has to due with the large volume of major hurricanes we have had since we have been tracking such data in relation to number of major earthquakes so not necessarily that earthquakes as a singular event are safer.)

My point was in reference to a singular decision a singular person gets to make in either situation (or not.)

I appreciate your maturity and great insight in responding to my points.
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Unread 07-31-2008, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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While I'm glad that I live here (rather than in China, Mexico, Turkey, or any other country in which earthquake death tolls are measured in the hundreds of thousands), I also believe that if the earth shakes hard enough and long enough it will bring down even the strongest buildings. We can minimize risk, but not avoid it altogether. Our modern building codes haven't really been put to the test, so comparisons of death tolls between hurricanes and earthquakes is misleading.

I agree that the scariest part of earthquakes is the total lack of warning. It's one thing to know that a hurricane is coming, or that severe storms (and tornadoes) are predicted. It's something else entirely to be awoken from a sound sleep with everything shaking and moving around you!

There's also something that hurricanes and tornadoes don't have - aftershocks. And believe me, if we experience an 8.0 earthquake here, there will be aftershocks bigger than the Northridge earthquake.

What I find fascinating is that the Northridge earthquake occurred on an unknown fault line! Doesn't that make you feel safe and secure?
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Unread 07-31-2008, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Hot Springs, AR
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I would rather not have any warning. Imho, pending disaster is scarier than surprise disaster. When the '94 quake hit, it was BOOM, shake, shake, shake and over. I remember being more scared of an aftershock I heard coming than the earthquake it came from.
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Unread 07-31-2008, 11:24 PM
 
Location: California
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I would rather not have any warning. Imho, pending disaster is scarier than surprise disaster. When the '94 quake hit, it was BOOM, shake, shake, shake and over. I remember being more scared of an aftershock I heard coming than the earthquake it came from.
I feel the same way exactly. Thinking about a disaster happening makes life much more difficult.
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Unread 07-31-2008, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Hoppin' thru the forest !
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Why are people in LA living on the Fault but have not moved?

Aren't they afraid that A Big Earthquake will occur?

Just asking. From Ya friend in North Carolina.
There are tons of faults running all over Southern California. People just cant live in fear ... life goes on . When you're time is up, then thats it ! Live life to the fullest and hope you dont have many regrets .
I love Tim Mc Graw's song " Live Like You Were Dying". People take many things ( life for example ) for granted IMO.
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