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Old 02-11-2009, 09:28 PM
 
Location: San Joaquin Valley, CA, USA
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Originally Posted by firetraq View Post
i think it would be fun to just **** with them and waste their time by calling and saying your sending the money..
There were some individuals who were doing this a while back (maybe they still are) with some of these Nigerian scammers. They'd send back hilarious correspondence and fake information and post it on their website along with all of the replies they got back from the scammers. It was very funny. Wish I could remember the URL.
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Old 06-08-2009, 11:01 PM
C4B
 
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Hey there ladies & Gents,

Well I was wondering if you guys can help me out on figuring out if this is one of the frauds that going on out on craigslist world. Well my fiance and I have been looking for an apt here in SF, Ca and found this nice place thats already been furnished and it is a good price etc... I have paste the first email we got back from the supposed owner. Please read and let us know, cause we wouldn't want to get scammed. The funny things is that after we email my info first and last address and thats it no important info was sent. and after a few minutes We got a respond back says that we meet the requierment. That made me think about the whole email, and did some research on scams and found this site.

Thanks.

P.S. All Emails are below. (the email addy that it came from is rentadls@ymail.com) I have more emails if you guys want to read the rest.

Email #1

Hello and thank you for your interest in my apartment,
The apartment is available for rent right now, you can move in
immediately. My name is Lili, the apartment owner, i have moved with
my job to the United Kingdom (Great Britain), to work for the US Gov
in London.

The apartment is located in a very select downtown neighborhood. The
area is very nice, very quiet and safe, it is close to all downtown
attractions, easy access to public transportation. Great Restaurants,
Bars, Pubs and shopping abound in the immediate area, within walking
distance.

The apartment is very spacious (over 1500 sqft) has 2 large bedrooms,
2 full baths, a living room, there is a dining area, a washer and
dryer in the apartment, lots of closet space, it is on the building's
top floors. All the rooms are nicely furnished and the apartment
features a spacious/open modern Kitchen with Stainless Steel
Appliances: range/oven, microwave, dishwasher & refrigerator, lots of
closets and storage space. Air Conditioning, Hardwood floors, Granite
and marble bathrooms, stainless steel appliances, Washer / Dryer in
the unit, 42" LCD TV, DVD, Sound System. It is fully furnished, all
new bedding/linens, all cookware & dishes come with the apartment,
high speed internet, premium cable w/HD, phone, all utilities and 2
Gated Car Parking Spaces Included. Well behaved pets are allowed. Any
maintenance or repairs in the apartment are resolved by a maintenance
company and i will be billed for their service. The price is the same
for the apartment furnished or unfurnished. The rent is for the whole
apartment NOT just a shared room. This is not a sublease, etc.

To get a better impression about the apt see the attached album with
photos of the apartment:

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US$ $1100.00 / Month : 2 Br 2 Baths Apt. located at 1200 Gough St #15C
San Francisco CA 94109

The rental terms are simple :
The lease can be anything from 3 months to 4 years.
1 Month advance, $1100 Deposit. The monthly rent includes all
utilities and amenities fees.

Since i will be working London, England for the next 4 years I have
insured the apartment and everything in it with the Jp Morgan Chase
Group. The Jp Morgan Chase Group is a Fortune 500 Company, accredited
by the Better Business Bureau and ranked in Forbes List of best
companies so the rental is a trustworthy process. Because the
apartment has many valuables before you can inspect the apartment you
will send the safety deposit via Money Gram to the Jp Morgan Chase
Group. The Jp Morgan Chase Group will guarantee the transaction, you
will receive a receipt for the deposit and they will hold the deposit
locked, unavailable to me so you can access the apartment and review
the lease. If you want to rent the apartment you will have to email
Jp Morgan Chase to release the deposit to me, otherwise they will
refund you the deposit the same day the keys and lease are returned.

If you are comfortable and want to rent the apartment i need you to
tell me about yourself, about the people who will be living in the
apartment.I am looking for someone serious and responsible.

All The Best Wishes,
Lili Babazadeh

Email respond #2 from owner

Hello,
I would like it that you inspect the apartment as soon as possible so you can see for yourself how beautiful it is. The rental process will be done through JP Morgan Chase. You will not send any funds to me. The rental is safe and secure: If you want to rent the apartment all i have to do is start a safe transaction with JP Morgan Chase, they will send you an invoice and details to complete the transaction, you will have to deposit the funds to a JP Morgan Chase agent and confirm the transfer details, the paperwork and keys to access the apartment will be mailed the same day. You will have 5 days to inspect the apartment and review the lease. If you decide not to rent the apartment you will get the money back the same day you return the keys and paperwork, If you decide to rent the apartment all you have to do is sign the lease, fax it and confirm that you have decided to rent the apartment so the deposit can be released to me.
As i have explained in my previous email i am out of the country, i have nobody in the US that can show you the apartment and i have had bad experience in the past trusting the apartment to Property Management companies etc . The apartment has many valuables, electronics, appliances so for insurance the rental will be done via JP Morgan Chase . They are a reputable neutral intermediary that will hold the funds so you can inspect the apartment. I will need your Full Name and Address to start the process with them
Thank you for understanding.

Email respond #3 from owner. (note: this is about 20 minutes after we sent my name and address info.)

Good news, since details have been checked and you meet all the requirements so you can rent the apartment I have started the transaction #WD72177.
You should receive the notification from JP Morgan Chase Co along with all the details to rent the apartment. You will have to locate a money gram agent, send the funds to the JP Morgan Chase Co agent and confirm the transfer details so they can hold the funds, the paperwork and keys to access the apartment will be mailed the same day the funds are verified and confirmed. Let me know if you have received the details to go ahead.

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Old 06-08-2009, 11:19 PM
 
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Definitely a scam.
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Old 06-08-2009, 11:22 PM
 
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I had the same response to an e-mail inquiry, but his name was changed, as was his wife's. Same info on the rest, though
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Old 06-08-2009, 11:39 PM
C4B
 
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Default damn scammers

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Originally Posted by squeezeboxgal View Post
Definitely a scam.
That's what my fiancey was saying but I was being hard headed. lol The damn gated 2 car parking space got me..arrrrgggh damn SF parking sucks.
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Old 06-08-2009, 11:42 PM
C4B
 
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Originally Posted by sidrah View Post
I had the same response to an e-mail inquiry, but his name was changed, as was his wife's. Same info on the rest, though
Can you copy and paste the email you got.. If you don't mind.

P.S. looks like back to step one for me and fiancey..lol She is going to laugh when I tell her that I almost got us scammed. hehehe

Thanks.
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:18 AM
 
Location: La Crescenta, CA
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Pretty much anything that asks you to do a "moneygram" is a scam.
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Australia
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I am 99.999999% sure it's a scam.
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:32 AM
 
Location: La Crescenta, CA
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Originally Posted by sailo View Post
I am 99.999999% sure it's a scam.
I think you're being conservative.

It is 100%, without a doubt, totally, unequivocally, bet-your-childrens'-lives-on-it a scam.
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Old 06-09-2009, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Originally Posted by Lumerian Feast View Post
I think you're being conservative.

It is 100%, without a doubt, totally, unequivocally, bet-your-childrens'-lives-on-it a scam.
yep and think how many would fall for this. Some scams are so obviously, some a little easier to believe.

I think just the price alone plus the information about all the valuables would warn me, to look elsewhere.

Nita
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