Train Wreck (living, moving, racism)

[Vicman]

Spincycle, in the United States we cannot put "population caps" on areas regarding people moving intra-United States. I know this happens in the People's Republic of China, but this does not happen in the United States.

Originally Posted by Spincycle

Perhaps not.

We should be putting "caps" on the populace - immigration controls/monetorium. Too many people, enough is enough. LA has past the point of no return, even with detailed planning going foward (as you propose), things will never be better. There's too many people, someone has to stand up and say "CALIFORNIA- NO VACANCY".

Which should have been done 2-3 decades ago (for the past and present populace).

[CESpeed]

Originally Posted by streetscenes

We can't roll back time and turn this into LA of the 60s or 70s. The millions of people are here to stay, and more are on the way. The sooner we come to grips with the fact that LA is growing bigger and denser by the day and the sooner we begin to plan for that the better things will get. And part of that planning includes dedicated light rail, commuter rail and subway systems.

First of all as the building of the Red Line proved, a subway system is not viable in LA. I'm talking about the building not the actual running. I'd rather my tax dollars go to improve emergency services and schools rather than build a light rail so that transplants can their cake and eat it, too. If you want to move to a dense area, be prepared to live densely. If you want to commute to avoid living with all the non-White people, suffer the consequences of a long coomute.

[Vicman]

Originally Posted by CESpeed

First of all as the building of the Red Line proved, a subway system is not viable in LA. I'm talking about the building not the actual running. I'd rather my tax dollars go to improve emergency services and schools rather than build a light rail so that transplants can their cake and eat it, too. If you want to move to a dense area, be prepared to live densely. If you want to commute to avoid living with all the non-White people, suffer the consequences of a long coomute.

I wonder: How was the construction and/or use of the LACMTA a failure?

[happ]

Originally Posted by CESpeed

First of all as the building of the Red Line proved, a subway system is not viable in LA. I'm talking about the building not the actual running. I'd rather my tax dollars go to improve emergency services and schools rather than build a light rail so that transplants can their cake and eat it, too. If you want to move to a dense area, be prepared to live densely. If you want to commute to avoid living with all the non-White people, suffer the consequences of a long coomute.

What? maybe we want to avoid living near bigots like you appear to be No wonder you want to move to the South [hurry, please

[city414]

Originally Posted by missionhome

CBS 2 is saying he was texting also. Apparently he was talking to teenagers (weird for an adult) that aspire to be conductors themselves.

cbs2.com - EXCLUSIVE: Engineer In Deadly Metrolink Crash Sent Text Message Just Before Collision (http://cbs2.com/local/Metrolink.Engineer.Robert.2.817045.html - broken link)

adults(18-19) or teens who arent adults 17 and under

[Jaymum]

Originally Posted by Vicman

Spincycle, in the United States we cannot put "population caps" on areas regarding people moving intra-United States. I know this happens in the People's Republic of China, but this does not happen in the United States.

Not to mention doing so would be just silly. Imagine if a population cap were put on New York, London or Tokyo when they had 4 million people- these cities would not have grown to be as globally significant as they are today. There's still much room for LA to grow, and geography is going to dictate that the growth be vertical and be coupled with more mass transit.

[happ]

Originally Posted by Jaymum

Not to mention doing so would be just silly. Imagine if a population cap were put on New York, London or Tokyo when they had 4 million people? These cities would not have grown to be as globally significant as they are today. There's still much room for LA to grow, and geography is going to dictate that the growth be vertical and be coupled with more mass transit.

Exactly. The state recently passed & the governor has signed legislation that will closely monitor growth \development with restrictions. Already, LA county has refused construction of more housing in the hills above Santa Clarita. Plain & simple, we do not have the water to accommodate uncontrolled growth & city\ state planners are encouraging high rise apartments around transit centers [ie. like Pasadena had done]. More light rail & commuter trains are the absolute future for LA and much of urban California. The "bullet" train between LA & Sacramento\ Bay Area is one of Schwarzenegger's priorities.

In-fact, we may need to get accustom to longer travel times on both the freeways & mass transit [a whole different life-style for Californians].

[CESpeed]

Originally Posted by happ

What? maybe we want to avoid living near bigots like you appear to be No wonder you want to move to the South [hurry, please

Excuse you?

[CESpeed]

Originally Posted by Vicman

I wonder: How was the construction and/or use of the LACMTA a failure?

Building the Red line was one disaster after another and cost three times to build it as it was originally suppose to the city of LA cannot tolerate underground building. There is a reason why you can't build a basement here. Between the bus-sixed sink hole that opened up during construction and the sinking of Hollywood Blvd, the city realizes that building underground in LA is not viable. Also, a good number of businesses were lost along the building route bacause customers couldn't get to them. Using the tracks along Exposition that already exist isn't a bad idea. But public transportation living in LA will never be a practical thing on a regular basis.

[Winston Smith]

Originally Posted by CESpeed

But public transportation living in LA will never be a practical thing on a regular basis.

Don't know how far back you're experience goes with pubic transportation in southern CA, but anyone who compares today's system in L.A. to just ten years ago would not agree with your statement that public transportation in L.A. is unworkable. I remember the RTD in the 70s and 80s. Talk about a lousy system, that was it! Today's system of subways, express bus lines and commuter rail is a light-year's leap in improvement for L.A. Just like the Interstate highway system that took 40 years and billions of tax-payer dollars to build, a decent public transportation infrastructure in southern CA takes vision, work, commitment and money. But in the end it's a benefit to everyone -- even those who never use the system.