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10-15-2008, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LASam
If this guy thinks preservation of low-density is LA's path for the future... I'm definately not in agreement with him. The days of low-density have already passed, and we need to embrace the new higher density LA that has evolved and build infrastructure accordingly. LA needs to move forward, not backwards.
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LA has a unique identity among america's major cities, and its architecture is a big part of that. visitors from high-density cities in the east and midwest often comment that even our roughest neighborhoods appear on the surface to be pleasant places to live, because residents live in single-family homes with a patch of green (okay, brown) out front, and aren't packed in on top of one another like metaphorical sardines. why would you want to lose that so more illegals* can live here? if concrete jungle is your thing, there are plenty of cities across the nation from which to choose. LA's architectural heritage needs to be preserved, not bulldozed in the pursuit of some perverted view of progress.
*yes, i brought them up, and i make no apologies for it. as long as the poeple who run this city let it go to hell to futher the interests of people who shouldn't be here at the expense of everyone else's, i will say so at every opportunity. everything villaraigosa does is with illegals in mind, including that $5B housing boondoggle he just proposed. (anyone who thinks that's a great idea needs to read walter moore's analysis found in the newsletter link on his website...or you can read the full plan for yourself.)
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10-15-2008, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Full-Blooded American
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goal exceeded. let the debates begin!
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10-15-2008, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by katenik
LA has a unique identity among america's major cities, and its architecture is a big part of that. visitors from high-density cities in the east and midwest often comment that even our roughest neighborhoods appear on the surface to be pleasant places to live, because residents live in single-family homes with a patch of green (okay, brown) out front, and aren't packed in on top of one another like metaphorical sardines. why would you want to lose that so more illegals* can live here? if concrete jungle is your thing, there are plenty of cities across the nation from which to choose. LA's architectural heritage needs to be preserved, not bulldozed in the pursuit of some perverted view of progress.
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I don't understand why you believe our architecture is a big part of LA's unique identity. Most of the homes are cheap stucco bungalow/shotguns and most of the commercial is strip mall style cheap stucco two story blandness.
I also disagree regarding our roughest neighborhoods. I believe that they appear nicer in large part because the infrastructure is much newer relative to their conterparts on the east coast. Given enough time and neglect, I'm sure they can fall to the same aesthetic quality level of the east coast cities.
Also, regading illegals, I don't think increasing the density of our city is going to have an appreciable impact on their inflow. They are already coming here in droves.
The bottom line to me, is that I view increased density in LA not as throwing up concrete projects in South LA, but as building quality dense projects along transit corridors and at transit nodes. Like the new NBC project in North Hollywood... and the TOD projects in Pasadena and Hollywood. Villaraigosa is in favor of this type of development as well.
Los Angeles' population is going to grow in the future, and we can continue to rely on the sprawl car-oriented infrastructure which is failing us today, or we can shift to vertical transit-oriented infrastructure. In my humble opinion, LA is a lost cause in the long run unless we focus on the latter.
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10-15-2008, 01:50 PM
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Take a look at Moore's website. One word is missing: Republican. Moore calls the election "non-partisan" even though each candidate is identified by their political party. Here's an interesting question posed to Moore:
LA City Beat:
"Mr Moore, you call yourself a non-scary Republican.
Moore:
I'm pro-choice, I'm pro-gay, and although I respect other people's rights to go to temple or church, I myself don't. The reason I'm Republican is that I think we need more limited government. The bigger government gets, the more opportunities it gives career politicians to do a reverse Robin Hood: Steal from the poor and give to the rich. Usually, you hear "Republican" in this town, it gives you the creeps; that's all you need to know about the guy. And I understand that. My own mother, when she found out I was a Republican, said, "Where did I go wrong?"
Moore ran against Antonio Villaraigosa in 2005 & didn't even have any funds from the GOP. Walter Moore needs to leave the GOP if he ever wants a chance at office in Los Angeles.
MOORE IS AGAINST RENT CONTROL !
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10-15-2008, 08:50 PM
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Let me explain, folks...
Moore is against developers, through loopholes, forgoing affordable housing and building properties only a select few can afford. So no, there's no contradiction. Furthermore, Moore recognizes that the further we overbuild L.A., the more congested it will become. And as Moore pointed out, most of the affordable housing in L.A. goes to illegals, so with them gone there'd be more for legal residents and prices would seek a lower market value.
How's that then?
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10-17-2008, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Full-Blooded American
Let me explain, folks...
Moore is against developers, through loopholes, forgoing affordable housing and building properties only a select few can afford. So no, there's no contradiction. Furthermore, Moore recognizes that the further we overbuild L.A., the more congested it will become. And as Moore pointed out, most of the affordable housing in L.A. goes to illegals, so with them gone there'd be more for legal residents and prices would seek a lower market value.
How's that then?
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So if I understand you correctly, Moore will wave his "magic wand" and all of the illegal immigrants will return peacefully to their homelands. Then the cost of housing will roll back to 1970s prices....pipe dream!
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10-17-2008, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by calipoppy
So if I understand you correctly, Moore will wave his "magic wand" and all of the illegal immigrants will return peacefully to their homelands. Then the cost of housing will roll back to 1970s prices....pipe dream!
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Do you understand that Special Order 40 is not a law, but rather a directive from the mayor's office? And as Moore stated, he would revoke it immediately upon becoming mayor. And honestly, do you not want an honest mayor, rather than Slick Tony, criminal sympathizer?
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10-17-2008, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Full-Blooded American
Do you understand that Special Order 40 is not a law, but rather a directive from the mayor's office? And as Moore stated, he would revoke it immediately upon becoming mayor. And honestly, do you not want an honest mayor, rather than Slick Tony, criminal sympathizer?
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I guess it's admirable that you are enthusiastic about Moore but realistically how does any Republican win in LA? It just doesn't happen here 
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11-21-2008, 11:18 PM
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More Signatures needed to get Moore on the Ballot!!!
Walter Moore must get at least 100 more signatures on his petition for him to be added tto the ballot!!! Signatures must be in by the 4th of Dec, so this is extremely IMPORTANT!
---Come by his headquarters tomorrow, Nov 22nd, Sat, between 10:00 am and 4:00 pm to sign the petition to get him on the ballot.
---The Moore headquarters are located at 6535 Wilshire Blvd, #204, LA 90048 (east of Wilshire and La Cienega). Park on the street or you will get towed.
Tell everyone you know to go by to sign the petition...we MUST get him on the ballot! 
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11-22-2008, 04:10 AM
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If more housing units aren't built, LA will just become less affordable.
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