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Old 02-05-2009, 04:34 PM
 
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Hard to come up with many worse than Tony V.
Sarah Palin. Enough said.

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Maybe Pelois and Reid. Maybe Gavin Newsome. All are horrible, incompetent, people.
Newsom's worse - another "celebrity politician" who like Tony should have gone into acting instead of politics - I'll give you that. I have to live under his rule and he's woefully inept. Pelosi? I was angry at her for killing any attempts to impeach Bush in the House but at least she's good at the nuts and bolts of politics in representing her district. Reid? Not particularly likeable, but there are far worse of both parties than any of the people you mentioned.
Dellums is clearly the worst big city mayor in CA. I think quite a few of you on here need to spend some time in Oakland and then you'll think that L.A. might not be as bad as you think....
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:37 PM
 
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he made sure NOT to take matching funds.

he didnt need them and didnt take them. he wont debate this guy. steve lopez wrote a column about a possible debate between these two. i think it would be a waste of time. this is nto a relevant or realistic candidate. why would villraigosa waste his time debating this clown?

wont happen. tho i would like there to be a viable candidate to run against AV, there isnt one. thats the reality. if someone else with credibility, repuation and experience ran against AV, i think we would have a new mayor.

as it stands, another term for AV
Tony will be re-elected even if Moore, Zuma Dogg and David Hernandez deny him an outright majority and force him into a runoff. And I said earlier in the thread Moore has some very "out there" views. However I think it would serve the common good if there was a debate. Just like I think that Ralph Nader and Bob Barr should have been included in the presidential debates, more points of view exposed to the public is good for democracy.
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:49 PM
 
Location: los angeles
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he made sure NOT to take matching funds.

he didnt need them and didnt take them. he wont debate this guy. steve lopez wrote a column about a possible debate between these two. i think it would be a waste of time. this is nto a relevant or realistic candidate. why would villraigosa waste his time debating this clown?

wont happen. tho i would like there to be a viable candidate to run against AV, there isnt one. thats the reality. if someone else with credibility, repuation and experience ran against AV, i think we would have a new mayor.

as it stands, another term for AV

I tend to agree that a debate would pretty much be a non-event [nobody even knows who the Republican candidate is & Moore is too iconoclastic]. But there should be some kind of forum where all candidates [including Socialist party] speak before an audience.

Animosity toward Villaraigosa falls along racial\ political lines & it is truly difficult to figure out what a mayor can actually do for Los Angeles. It was good for Villaraigosa to be in DC this week. Bill Clinton lavished much on California in-part due to Hollywood $. President Obama is fully aware of how much California supported his election & Villaraigosa will be a beneficiary for LA.
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Old 02-07-2009, 01:12 AM
 
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it is truly difficult to figure out what a mayor can actually do for Los Angeles.
1. Downtown skyline
2. Century City skyline
3. Westwood and Wilshire Cooridor skylines
4. Warner Center skyline
5. Expansion of business which led to more white colar jobs and tax revenue
6. The launch of light rail and subway system albiet an incomplete one
7. Expansion of LAX as a major international passenger and cargo airport
8. Bringing an Olympic games to LA
9. Maintaining LA as a desirable place to live which led to it becoming the second largest city in the U.S. as a result of domestic migration and not illegal immigration
10. Generally turning LA into a world class, global city.

These are examples of what a good mayor can do for LA. Thank you TOM BRADLEY. May he RIP.

Although he did have twenty plus years to accomplish all of that.
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:54 AM
 
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I don't know what intellectual bug you guys have, but Tony Villaraigosa is the highest level of crook, gangster, anti-american there is. Case in point: he sent helicopters and police and sanitation department to intimidate Jamiel Shaw's parents from gathering signatures for Jamiel's Law in Leimert park. He also had Ted Hayes arrested and jailed when he organized a legal permit protest against illegal immigration in Leimert park, while nothing happened to the illegal gang-members who blocked the park entrance while threatening and jeering the protestors. My friends, Villaraigosa is running a communist dictatorship overthrow of our lands and government, while American citizens who are funding it are being intimidated, threatened, and in Jamiel's case, killed.

WALTER MOORE WROTE JAMIEL'S LAW. Do you Moderator cut: even know who Jamiel Shaw is?

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Old 02-12-2009, 10:50 AM
 
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I don't know what intellectual bug you guys have, but Tony Villaraigosa is the highest level of crook, gangster, anti-american there is. Case in point: he sent helicopters and police and sanitation department to intimidate Jamiel Shaw's parents from gathering signatures for Jamiel's Law in Leimert park. He also had Ted Hayes arrested and jailed when he organized a legal permit protest against illegal immigration in Leimert park, while nothing happened to the illegal gang-members who blocked the park entrance while threatening and jeering the protestors.
Do you have sources for this information? I would be really interested to read more about this. Also, no need for the nonsense at the end of your post, you're asking to be banned.

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Old 02-12-2009, 12:40 PM
 
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My sources: I talked to the Shaws and Ted Hayes in person. How else can you find out about the truth these days. All the communications systems are rigged.
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Old 02-12-2009, 02:40 PM
 
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I don't know what intellectual bug you guys have, but Tony Villaraigosa is the highest level of crook, gangster, anti-american there is.
Never heard of George W. Bush I take it?

Villaraigosa is just insufficiently able to fulfill the responsibilities of his job and is more interested in being a celebrity and living like one rather than running the city. He came into office with raised expectations about changing L.A.'s political culture and turned out to be more of the same. I've met him and he is personally nice and charming, but not up to the challenges of today's difficult environment. In more prosperous times he might have been able to coast by without criticism - however, he's not up to the challenge of leading a city (with far less power than other US mayors, albeit more than L.A. mayors prior to Riordan's second term) in a time of crisis. That does not constitute being "anti-American".

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My friends, Villaraigosa is running a communist dictatorship
Proof that you know nothing about how communist dictatorships operate. A considerable number of people in L.A. have direct experience with living under communist dictatorships (and even more have relatives who did) but I doubt you are one of them. What exists in L.A. is a broken political system, a lack of accountability, and a political culture designed to discourage civic engagement and political participation, and none of this is new. See my comments about how when I was in high school my teachers constantly berated that L.A. municipal politics didn't resemble that of Eastern cities and as a result apathy about municipal politics reigned - and I now realize they were right. Except for high levels of poverty no one would confuse LA with a communist dictatorship who knew what a communist dictatorship actually was. I recommend you do some reading on the history of Eastern and Central Europe in the 20th century before you make statements like that. Tony's not Nicolae Ceausescu, Leonid Brezhnev, or Enver Hoxha.

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overthrow of our lands and government
We've done it to ourselves. Nobody needs to do it for us, thank you.

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WALTER MOORE WROTE JAMIEL'S LAW. Do you Moderator cut: even know who Jamiel Shaw is?
Yes. However Espinoza was originally arrested by the LASD, who are not a sanctuary department and are not covered by Special Order 40, unlike the LAPD. Jamiel Shaw, while not a gang member himself, was a "wanna be" who had a MySpace page filled with gang content. A real gang member like Espinoza upon seeing that MySpace site could not detect the difference between a real Blood and a "cyber-banger" wanna be Blood like Shaw. I have no problem whatsoever with going after gang members who aren't legally in the US but Special Order 40 and "sanctuary cities" (or "sanctuary police departments" more correctly) had nothing to do with Shaw's death. His death was a tragedy but the issue here is not so much illegal immigration as the need for parents to be more aware of what their kids are doing online and the all too often repeated phenomenon of wanna-bes meeting tragic fates at the hands of real gangs.
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Old 02-12-2009, 02:43 PM
 
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My sources: I talked to the Shaws and Ted Hayes in person. How else can you find out about the truth these days. All the communications systems are rigged.
The delusions in your head are more reliable than any other source?

L.A. more than any US city except NYC is filled with blogs, local websites, and the like and so there is no shortage of information on news not covered by the L.A. Times (whose future is more endangered than perhaps any other US newspaper) and local TV and radio stations.
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:25 PM
 
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Villaraigosa & the city council [no Republicans, 14 Democrats & one Green] are merely trying to keep Los Angeles afloat. Thank God TV\ movie industry is still doing fairly well but job losses in LA are ranked 4th in America [NYC #1]. At this point LA & all of California rely on the generosity of President Obama & why Villaraigosa is critical in securing federal monies. We are fortunate in California that Democrats have high positions in Congress & Californians played a major role in getting Obama elected.

At this point people like Walter Moore are entirely insignificant. LA's future is in the hands of the national government. It's like Nancy Pelosi is the actual mayor of Los Angeles
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