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11-13-2008, 08:38 PM
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Lost in Space
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Originally Posted by wehotex
the guy not only voted FOR, but donated $1,000 to the Yes on 8 ppl. this man didn't even care that he would taking away rights from his lesbian sister, much less his so-called friends and associates that happened to be gay. out of curiosity, did you feel sympathy for the dixie chicks when they dissed W a few years ago?
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So what, so now you want to take the freedom of donating and voting away unless it's for your cause?
Last edited by Dark of the Moon; 11-13-2008 at 11:48 PM..
Reason: Edited quoted text
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11-14-2008, 12:00 AM
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INFP, Good for Nothing Student
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Originally Posted by Roaddog
So what, so now you want to take the freedom of donating and voting away unless it's for your cause?
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You or I are free to donate and free to vote, others are free to "vote" with their dollars in response, when it comes to a business.
The theater director was stupid.
I live in a HUGELY Hispanic, pretty conservative, very Catholic part of my town (and yes, I'm white, Pagan, and a lesbian.. lol).
So that would be like me getting a job as a secretary at the local church and then making it known that I'd donated tons to Planned Parenthood or whatever. Yes it's my right to donate however I see fit... but if I was employed by the Catholic Church, well it would be pretty stupid to be open about it. Duh.

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11-14-2008, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by fierce_flawless
You or I are free to donate and free to vote, others are free to "vote" with their dollars in response, when it comes to a business.
The theater director was stupid.
I live in a HUGELY Hispanic, pretty conservative, very Catholic part of my town (and yes, I'm white, Pagan, and a lesbian.. lol).
So that would be like me getting a job as a secretary at the local church and then making it known that I'd donated tons to Planned Parenthood or whatever. Yes it's my right to donate however I see fit... but if I was employed by the Catholic Church, well it would be pretty stupid to be open about it. Duh.

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Exactly! The Mormon had to be plain dumb to put his job & the reputation of the theater group at risk. There would have been protesters & boycotts that could have ruined the group who are already gay-friendly. The remarks from well-known playwrights was shock that the Mormon was so insensitive to them.
A thoughtless person driven by a perverted religion.
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11-14-2008, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia
If they want to play that game, maybe the straight world should boycott all of West Hollywood and the entertainment industry.
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It's interesting that you think this is a "gay versus straight" issue when nearly half the state voted to retain same-sex marriage.
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11-14-2008, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SOON2BNSURPRISE
How did choosing a lifestyle allow someone to become part of a protected class?
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The same way that choosing a religion allows someone to become a part of a protected class.
By the way, in case you didn't know, the medical community generally doesn't consider sexual orientation to be a choice.
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11-14-2008, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by VLWH
Since blacks and latinos voted yes on 8 at a higher percentage than whites, I wonder if future protests will target South Central or E. Los Angeles. 
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The protests are being directed toward people and businesses who donated large amounts of money to the "Yes On Prop 8" organization. I haven't seen any large donations from South or East Los Angeles on the list.
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11-14-2008, 07:59 AM
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Just another C-D member
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Wow. First of all, being gay is not a choice. If you're gay, choosing to not live a gay lifestyle is to choose to deny who you are! Yeah, that sounds healthy.  And although there have been many gays in heterosexual marriages, too many lives have been ruined by gays doing just that to hide who they really are for fear of persecution and ridicule. So you'll sentence these people (including my daughter) to choose between: 1) Living in sin forever with the same sex partner of their choice, or 2) a sham of a marriage to a person of the opposite sex, simply because you think this lifestyle is a choice. Even to call it a lifestyle is insulting.
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Originally Posted by SOON2BNSURPRISE
How did choosing a lifestyle allow someone to become part of a protected class? Maybe we should make individuals that are married part of a protected class and say that marriage is only between a man and a woman.
No one is stopping anyone from getting married. What is being said is that a man can only marry a woman. Being gay doesn't keep you from joining the party. You can still get married. Just to someone of the opposite sex. No one is keeping you from that. This in no way takes any ones civil rights away from them. You can choose not to get married because the opposite sex doesn't turn you on, but no one is keeping you from getting married. That is a choice you are making.
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11-14-2008, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by the one
not a hater? voting for prop 8 makes them a person who is in favor of unequal treatment of a protected class of citizens. which is pretty hateful. you might not think you are hating...but you sure are negating a persons right to marry and be happy.
i dont want to limit my neighbors civic happiness. civil marraige makes people happy. let them get it.
otherwise its H8
as for protesting the el coyote. never been there and i will make sure never to go.
i dont support H8ers
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LOL, a "protected class of citizens"? And just what the hell is that? Certainly sounds pretty unequal already, if a "class of citizens" is already being singled out for special protection.
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11-14-2008, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale
It's interesting that you think this is a "gay versus straight" issue when nearly half the state voted to retain same-sex marriage.
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Nearly half the state? LOL, you meant nearly half the votes cast were to retain same-sex marriage.
And you seem to be forgetting that over half the votes cast voted to retain the traditional definition of marriage.
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11-14-2008, 01:14 PM
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The protests at El Coyote could very well close the restaurant. Who would want to cross a picket line of gay activists just for a Mexican meal? Mormons all over California are being identified & boycotts are starting against their businesses.
This is a very effective message to anti-gay bigots
Proposition 8 protesters target businesses - Los Angeles Times
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