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Old 11-13-2008, 03:38 AM
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Default How Did Prop R Pass?!

Did most people not understand that Prop R increases sales tax? And, sales tax is regressive, which means it affects low income earners more severely than high income earners. So, by passing Prop R, you people have voted to increase poverty and crime in L.A.

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Yes we did understand that Prop R increases sales tax. Being stuck with a substandard transportation system is not exactly progressive and affects low income earners more than high income earners. To say that low income earners did not understand that this means some more money out of there pocket is insulting to them. They get that with improved transportation comes improved lives. Maybe with better infrastructure low income earners can spend only 2 hours commuting by bus and train rather than 3 or 4 hours, that's more time at home with the kids and family. Also those on the lower end of the pay scale more typically work at 9 to 5 job and have less flexibility to work from home or work staggered hours.
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Old 11-13-2008, 10:26 AM
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How did it pass? It passed because over 2/3 of voters voted for it. Don't forget that much or the poverty stricken population of LA is not eligible to vote. Have you ever been to jury duty? I have, there aren't too many brown skinned people there.
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How did it pass? It passed because over 2/3 of voters voted for it. Don't forget that much or the poverty stricken population of LA is not eligible to vote. Have you ever been to jury duty? I have, there aren't too many brown skinned people there.
You don't need to be registered to vote to be called in for jury duty. I should know. And there were plenty of non-whites or as you stated "brown skinned people" each time I was called in. I don't understand why anyone would not be eligible to vote because their poverty-stricken - do you mean because there are many convicted felons among them?
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Old 11-13-2008, 10:43 AM
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Did most people not understand that Prop R increases sales tax? And, sales tax is regressive, which means it affects low income earners more severely than high income earners. So, by passing Prop R, you people have voted to increase poverty and crime in L.A.

Nice job.
Are you surprised? This IS L.A., we LOVE high taxes and substandard living.
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:13 AM
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Just wait until the sales tax is 10.25% in LA and everyone's going to OC to make big purchases, bartering, or buying on Craigs List.
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Old 11-13-2008, 12:27 PM
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You don't need to be registered to vote to be called in for jury duty. I should know. And there were plenty of non-whites or as you stated "brown skinned people" each time I was called in. I don't understand why anyone would not be eligible to vote because their poverty-stricken - do you mean because there are many convicted felons among them?
To vote, you must be a citizen, born here or naturalized, the same goes for jury duty. Obviously, there are many immigrants that live in LA, but many are not eligible to vote. Due to the law of numbers, there are many immigrants that are eligible, but when you go to jury duty, the demographics in the jury room don't accurately reflect that of the entire city/county.

Anyways, the point was that much of the poor population of LA is excluded from voting, which probably helped Prop R pass.
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Didn't all the measures wanting higher taxes win? Both for LA & California? Anyone have the info?
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Anyways, the point was that much of the poor population of LA is excluded from voting, which probably helped Prop R pass.
yet more than 2/3rd the county voters voted for it. i dont think illegals would have had any sway

sad that people voluntarily vote for tax increases. we need to vote for spending decreases instead
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:44 PM
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I think you got me wrong here. I voted for the measure and am happy it passed, I was just answering the OP's question of why this happened.

The bottom line is that people are fed up with traffic and are willing to pay a little extra to help with the problem.
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