|

11-13-2008, 03:38 AM
|
|
Not a member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2008
957 posts, read 638,217 times
Reputation: 495
|
|
How Did Prop R Pass?!
Did most people not understand that Prop R increases sales tax? And, sales tax is regressive, which means it affects low income earners more severely than high income earners. So, by passing Prop R, you people have voted to increase poverty and crime in L.A.
Nice job.
|
|

11-13-2008, 07:34 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: South Pasadena
534 posts, read 384,696 times
Reputation: 228
|
|
|
Yes we did understand that Prop R increases sales tax. Being stuck with a substandard transportation system is not exactly progressive and affects low income earners more than high income earners. To say that low income earners did not understand that this means some more money out of there pocket is insulting to them. They get that with improved transportation comes improved lives. Maybe with better infrastructure low income earners can spend only 2 hours commuting by bus and train rather than 3 or 4 hours, that's more time at home with the kids and family. Also those on the lower end of the pay scale more typically work at 9 to 5 job and have less flexibility to work from home or work staggered hours.
|
|

11-13-2008, 10:26 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: LA
2,261 posts, read 1,785,264 times
Reputation: 576
|
|
|
How did it pass? It passed because over 2/3 of voters voted for it. Don't forget that much or the poverty stricken population of LA is not eligible to vote. Have you ever been to jury duty? I have, there aren't too many brown skinned people there.
|
|

11-13-2008, 10:35 AM
|
|
because I'm beautiful
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: South Bay Native
5,700 posts, read 3,610,443 times
Reputation: 7543
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRinSM
How did it pass? It passed because over 2/3 of voters voted for it. Don't forget that much or the poverty stricken population of LA is not eligible to vote. Have you ever been to jury duty? I have, there aren't too many brown skinned people there.
|
You don't need to be registered to vote to be called in for jury duty. I should know. And there were plenty of non-whites or as you stated "brown skinned people" each time I was called in. I don't understand why anyone would not be eligible to vote because their poverty-stricken - do you mean because there are many convicted felons among them? 
|
|

11-13-2008, 10:43 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: California
1,814 posts, read 1,276,921 times
Reputation: 1068
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Full-Blooded American
Did most people not understand that Prop R increases sales tax? And, sales tax is regressive, which means it affects low income earners more severely than high income earners. So, by passing Prop R, you people have voted to increase poverty and crime in L.A.
Nice job.
|
Are you surprised? This IS L.A., we LOVE high taxes and substandard living. 
|
|

11-13-2008, 11:13 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Orange County CA
5,506 posts, read 4,945,389 times
Reputation: 2264
|
|
|
Just wait until the sales tax is 10.25% in LA and everyone's going to OC to make big purchases, bartering, or buying on Craigs List.
|
|

11-13-2008, 12:27 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: LA
2,261 posts, read 1,785,264 times
Reputation: 576
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by DontH8Me
You don't need to be registered to vote to be called in for jury duty. I should know. And there were plenty of non-whites or as you stated "brown skinned people" each time I was called in. I don't understand why anyone would not be eligible to vote because their poverty-stricken - do you mean because there are many convicted felons among them? 
|
To vote, you must be a citizen, born here or naturalized, the same goes for jury duty. Obviously, there are many immigrants that live in LA, but many are not eligible to vote. Due to the law of numbers, there are many immigrants that are eligible, but when you go to jury duty, the demographics in the jury room don't accurately reflect that of the entire city/county.
Anyways, the point was that much of the poor population of LA is excluded from voting, which probably helped Prop R pass.
|
|

11-13-2008, 12:31 PM
|
|
Not a member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: los angeles
5,033 posts, read 2,708,051 times
Reputation: 1068
|
|
|
Didn't all the measures wanting higher taxes win? Both for LA & California? Anyone have the info?
|
|

11-13-2008, 01:31 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: So Cal
3,058 posts, read 2,394,329 times
Reputation: 608
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRinSM
Anyways, the point was that much of the poor population of LA is excluded from voting, which probably helped Prop R pass.
|
yet more than 2/3rd the county voters voted for it. i dont think illegals would have had any sway
sad that people voluntarily vote for tax increases. we need to vote for spending decreases instead
|
|

11-13-2008, 02:44 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: LA
2,261 posts, read 1,785,264 times
Reputation: 576
|
|
|
I think you got me wrong here. I voted for the measure and am happy it passed, I was just answering the OP's question of why this happened.
The bottom line is that people are fed up with traffic and are willing to pay a little extra to help with the problem.
|
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
|
|