Ever worry about LA Earthquake risk? (San Francisco, Oakland: fit in, live in, move)

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If you're a homeowner, follow the advice of local posters here and retro-fit your house for quakes. We did so in 1991 when we bought our now 95-year-old home, and it survived the '94 quake with main damage of the 2-story chimney falling through the roof in one big crash into our bedroom, the plaster walls cracking and all ceiling electric fixtures dashed to the floor. Our excellent builders had said they did as much as they could and that we could afford, and that it would take a quake that destroyed all of L.A. to bring down our house and we'd all be dead anyway so it wouldn't matter. Yes, that's gallows humor, but it shows you can successfully retro-fit an old house to withstand a 6.9 quake. As native L.A. people we knew to have flashlights and hard-soled shoes next to the bed, and had bolted the armoires and tall bookcases to the walls. Everyone, even in apts. should do this as well.

Our across the street neighbors weren't so lucky. They were 2 of the 60 people killed. We were part of the non-rescue team.

There are trade-offs everywhere in the U.S. We don't have tornados or blizzards, but we do have a real, deadly fire season each year thanks to the predictable Santa Ana winds (arsonists as much as power lines cause the fires here), mudslides every time it rains hard, and some excruciatingly hot summers in the valley and high desert communities here. Earthquakes, unlike storms and other prognosticated weather events, cannot be evacuated ahead of time, so their lethalness seems more abrupt. If you live here for over a dozen years, you will feel some sort of earthquake. Hopefully not our fabled "Big One."

[kidcanaduh]

Originally Posted by Paula Lynn

I think we're due for a good shaker soon. It's been over 10 years since the Northridge earthquake. Like Dennispat said, be prepared, because we have no warnings. Stock up on some water, canned goods, candles, matches, beer and cat food, and you'll be just fine!!!!

Ha! This is a very smart lady.


In my unsophisticated opinion, Fall and Winter are typically earthquake season. Everyone knows Cali is overdue. In '89 it was San Fran. In '94 it was Northridge. In '05 Mount St. Helens blew off some stream again.

I would guess the next quake will be south of Northridge.

I'm predicting Cali has a moderate to major quake before Winter is over. It might not be south of Northridge, mind you, but something is brewing, and it isn't the beer.

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by kidcanaduh

In my unsophisticated opinion, Fall and Winter are typically earthquake season.

There is no earthquake "season." The seasons have no effect at all on earthquakes which occur, on average, 10+ miles underground.

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Survived the Whittier (living in Downey) and Northridge one (living in Chino Hills)...Whittier was more scary to me since I was caught on the road, and it was the rolling kind (the road rolled like someone shook a carpet runner!).

Here were our guidelines back then:
1. Coins to put in payphones (back when cellphones were not in vogue!) since landlines are dead.
2. Cash - since ATMS would not be working
3. EQ survival kit (in triplicate - car, home, work) - sneakers, dried food, provisions for babies and pets, toiletries, personal hygiene stuff, blankets, astronaut food, rotating containers of water, batteries, radio, flashlights, monkey wrench near gas and water mains at home, tent (for sleeping in your yard if you feel your house has been compromised)
4. Employer asked us to plot various routes to and from home so we can be "traced" if missing
5. Emergency out of state contacts

We never really dwelled on it...I fear tornadoes more...

[kidcanaduh]

Originally Posted by Fleet

There is no earthquake "season." The seasons have no effect at all on earthquakes which occur, on average, 10+ miles underground.

On November 12, 2004, from my research, I predicted there would be a 8+ quake by Christmas Day. People laughed at me. We hadn't had a 8 in years. They laughed about the tide wave, claiming it would be an inch high.

On December 25 (our time) a 9+ quake hit and caused the tsunami. People weren't laughing at me anymore. I predicted about 4 other quakes either to the day or location. It's all posted online. But I won't tell you where.

Most big quakes occur in Fall or Winter. It has to do with the planet aligment, in my opinion. Full moons trigger events. You may not have noticed, but right after the tsunami daylight hours were effed up. It was staying lighter out longer. It should be dark where I live by 5 pm by Christmas Day into January. It was staying light out until 6 pm.

Planet wobble?

I don't know, but something happened.

This light change was also noticeable in Cali at the time. In the coming days, watch and see if it's still doing it down there.

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by kidcanaduh

On November 12, 2004, from my research, I predicted there would be a 8+ quake by Christmas Day. People laughed at me. We hadn't had a 8 in years. They laughed about the tide wave, claiming it would be an inch high.

On December 25 (our time) a 9+ quake hit and caused the tsunami. People weren't laughing at me anymore. I predicted about 4 other quakes either to the day or location. It's all posted online. But I won't tell you where.

Most big quakes occur in Fall or Winter. It has to do with the planet aligment, in my opinion. Full moons trigger events. You may not have noticed, but right after the tsunami daylight hours were effed up. It was staying lighter out longer. It should be dark where I live by 5 pm by Christmas Day into January. It was staying light out until 6 pm.

Planet wobble?

I don't know, but something happened.

This light change was also noticeable in Cali at the time. In the coming days, watch and see if it's still doing it down there.

Here is a list of earthquakes in Alaska over 7.0 up to 1986. Note that just about as many occurred in the Spring and Summer as in Fall and Winter...

Sept. 4, 1899----- Near Cape Yakataga----------------- 8.3
Sept. 10, 1899---- Yakutat Bay------------------------- 8.6
Oct. 9, 1900------ Near Cape Yakataga----------------- 8.3
June 2, 1903------ Shelikof Strait----------------------- 8.3
Aug., 27, 1904---- Near Rampart------------------------ 8.3
Aug. 17, 1906------ Near Amchitka Island---------------- 8.3
March 7, 1929----- Near Dutch Harbor------------------- 8.6
Nov. 10, 1938----- East of Shumagin Islands------------- 8.7
Aug. 22, 1949----- Queen Charlotte Islands (Canada)----- 8.1
March 9, 1957----- Andreanof Islands-------------------- 8.2
July 9, 1958------- Southwestern Alaska----------------- 7.9
March 28, 1964---- Prince William Sound----------------- 8.4 (Moment Magnitude: 9.2)
Feb. 4, 1965------- Rat Islands-------------------------- 7.8
Feb. 28, 1979------ Mount St. Elias, Southeastern Alaska- 7.7
May 7, 1986------- Kadak Island------------------------- 7.7

What is considered to be the largest earthquake in modern times was the May, 1960 quake in Chile with a Moment Magnitude of 9.5.

Here are some other large quakes which happened in the Spring and Summer:
Location/Year---------------------------- Magnitude
San Francisco/April 18, 1906-------------- 8.3 (7.8 Moment Mag.)
Chile/Aug. 16, 1906----------------------- 8.6
Japan, Yokohama/Sept. 1, 1923----------- 8.3
China, Nan-Shing/May 22,1927------------ 8.3
India, Quetta/May 31, 1935--------------- 7.5
Japan/June 28, 1948---------------------- 7.3
Ecuador/Aug. 5, 1949--------------------- 6.8
India, Assam/Aug. 15, 1950---------------- 8.7
N. Afghanistan/June, 1956----------------- 7.7
Northern Iran/July 2, 1957----------------- 7.4
Northwestern Iran/Sept. 1, 1962----------- 7.1
Yugoslavia/July 26, 1963------------------- 6.0
Eastern Turkey/Aug. 19, 1966-------------- 6.9
Northeastern Iran/Aug. 31, 1968------------ 7.4
Western Turkey, Mar. 28, 1970------------- 7.4
Northern Peru/May 31, 1970---------------- 7.7
Southern Iran/April 10, 1972---------------- 6.9
Northeast Italy/May 6, 1976---------------- 6.5
New Guinea/June 26, 1976------------------ 7.1
China, Tangshan/July 28, 1976-------------- 8.2 (over 242,000 killed)
Philippines/Aug. 17, 1976-------------------- 7.8
Indonesia/Aug. 19, 1977--------------------- 8.0
Japan/June 12, 1978------------------------ 7.5
Northeast Iran/Sept. 16, 1978--------------- 7.7
Indonesia/Sept. 12, 1979-------------------- 8.1
Japan, N. Honshu/May 26, 1983-------------- 7.7
Eastern Turkey/Oct. 30, 1983---------------- 7.1
Mexico City/Sept. 19, 1985------------------- 8.1
Nepal/India border/Aug. 20, 1988------------- 6.5
San Francisco Bay Area/Oct. 17, 1989-------- 6.9
N. Peru/May 30, 1990------------------------ 6.3
Romania/May 30, 1990----------------------- 6.5
NW Iran/June 21, 1990----------------------- 7.7

The planet alignment theory has been disproven. It has very little affect on earthquakes.

And there was no unusual setting of the sun ("longer daylight") out here after that '04 Tsunami. If it was still light one hour later than usual, you can bet it would have been on the news (and a lot of people in panic). Didn't happen.
Please post a link showing that this happened because I haven't seen it.

[kidcanaduh]

I believe in it. You can also watch tidal charts. Ever see earthquake clouds?

I haven't played with this stuff in a while, though. During Christmas we had a full moon, and I expected a quake somewhere, but it didn't happen. I still think something will happen somewhere before March 21.

San. Fran. October 17, 1989. Northridge January 17, 1994. Fall and winter. Tsunami quake, December 25 (our time)

Some of the places you point out are in the southern Hemisphere, which means our summer months are their winter months. April to September down there is fall and winter.

The links where I posted the daylight issue are gone. I also posted on the Discovery Channel site in Canada but they changed the board. They have a new one and maybe it's still there, I'm not certain, really, because I haven't been back since they changed boards. They may've transferred all threads to the new board. I'll check it when I have time.

You know what time it usually gets dark this time of year where you live. Check it out tomorrow. Here, in the first week of January, it should be dark by 5 pm, but in '05 it was light out until 6. Even on December 21, 2007, winter solstice, the shortest day or longest night of the year, it still wasn't dark at 5:25 pm. This is not normal.

I haven't checked in the past week, I'll check tomorrow, if I can remember.

Earth has been having many large quakes in the recent years. Global warming is said to be getting worse. Something is going on, and it isn't manmade or man's fault.

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by kidcanaduh

I believe in it. You can also watch tidal charts. Ever see earthquake clouds?

I don't believe it. Oh, now it's "earthquake clouds." Do you mean earthquake lights? That I've heard of.

I haven't played with this stuff in a while, though. During Christmas we had a full moon, and I expected a quake somewhere, but it didn't happen. I still think something will happen somewhere before March 21.

Anyone can make predictions. I predict there will be a large earthquake somewhere in the world sometime this year. My "prediction" is right because earthquakes happen every day!

San. Fran. October 17, 1989. Northridge January 17, 1994. Fall and winter. Tsunami quake, December 25 (our time)

San. Fran., April 18, 1906. Spring. Kern County, Calif., July 21, 1952 (7.7 magnitude). Summer. Tsunami quake (Alaska, March 28, 1964). See, for every one you post in fall and winter, I can most likely post one in the spring or summer.

Here are more spring and summer quakes in Calif.:
July 28, 1769, June 1836 and 1838 (both in the San Fran. area), July, 1855, July 2, 1861, March 26, 1872 (the big 8.3 Owens Valley quake), May 18, 1940 (Imperial Valley; 7.1 mag), April 8, 1968 (Northeast of San Diego County; 6.5), May 25, 1980 (3 quakes at Owens Valley/Mammoth Lakes, 6.1, 6.0 and 6.1), May 2, 1983 (Coalinga, 6.7 mag), April 24, 1984 (Morgan Hill, near S.F.), July 8, 1986 (Palm Springs, 6.0 mag), July 21 (Chalfant Valley, 6.1), April 22, 1992 (Joshua Tree, 6.1), June 28, 1992 (Landers, 7.3), June 28, 1992 (Big Bear, 6.6).

Some of the places you point out are in the southern Hemisphere, which means our summer months are their winter months. April to September down there is fall and winter.

What about all of those large quakes in Alaska, in the northern Hemisphere, in spring and summer?

The links where I posted the daylight issue are gone. I also posted on the Discovery Channel site in Canada but they changed the board. They have a new one and maybe it's still there, I'm not certain, really, because I haven't been back since they changed boards. They may've transferred all threads to the new board. I'll check it when I have time.

If it really happened, it should be easy to find on the Internet and newspaper articles on the Internet (L.A. Times, N.Y. Times, etc).

You know what time it usually gets dark this time of year where you live. Check it out tomorrow. Here, in the first week of January, it should be dark by 5 pm, but in '05 it was light out until 6. Even on December 21, 2007, winter solstice, the shortest day or longest night of the year, it still wasn't dark at 5:25 pm. This is not normal.

Again, nothing unusual has been reported. It would have been reported.

Earth has been having many large quakes in the recent years.

Earth has been having many large quakes throughout millions of years.

Global warming is said to be getting worse. Something is going on, and it isn't manmade or man's fault

That explains everything... if you really believe the "gloabl warming" scam. BTW, how can it be "global" when it's getting colder in Antarctica?

[kidcanaduh]

I don't believe in global warming, well I do, but it's not man made.

We've had 17 ice ages and melts.

I know it's getting cold in the South Pole.

Earthquake clouds, not lights. I didn't say you could predict anything from them, I just asked if you seen any down there. Watch the skies, they form in Cali all the time.

earthquake clouds - Google Image Search

Because something isn't on the news doesn't mean it didn't happen. Remember, Iraq had WMD, Bush and Powel knew where they were, they had sat photos to prove it. Dummy, I mean Rummy said the war would be 6 days, 6 weeks or 6 months. That was nearly 5 years ago. Rummy doesn't do quagmires!

There had not been a 8+ quake priot to '05 in years. You would've posted it had there been. You don't have to believe, I'm not trying to convince you.

Why do whales and dolphins beach themselves?

Is it from sub sonars or is it because of the sounds earth created beneath the ocean floor?

Who knows?

Why were no so few animals killed after the tsunami?

How did they know to head to higher ground but man didn't?

Who knows.

But I'll probably be back before March 21st to say I told you so. It happens all the time.

1906 San Fran. As you pointed out.

It's been 102 years.

1989, '94 and others since '1906 were teasers.

[kidcanaduh]

Here's the board where I posted about the longer daylight. I posted it in Jan. 2005. They rebuilt the site in Feb. 2005. It doesn't appear they transferred over all the old threads, which included mine.

DiscoveryChannel.ca