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Old 01-17-2009, 01:37 PM
 
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My commute from Torrance to Westwood takes me an unbearable 1.5 hours each way. Therefore, I'm thinking of getting a decent motorcycle to commute. I'd never operated a motorcycle. What do you think of this option? I know there is always some inherent risks involved in riding a motorcycle on the freeway (405), but what do you think of the pros and cons? I really do not know but, I speculate that by weaving and bobbing between bumper-to-bumper cars on the streets/freeways, I'll be able to reach Westwood in 30 minutes ! Tell me I am wrong.
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Old 01-17-2009, 02:05 PM
 
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torrance to westwood is quite a drive, but the motorcycle would certainly speed up the commute for you. i commute on a vespa and love it. i don't take any freeways though and my drive is only 6 miles each way. if you don't mind the risk, i think its a good idea. not only are saving time, but you would also save money.
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Old 01-17-2009, 02:49 PM
 
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torrance to westwood is quite a drive, but the motorcycle would certainly speed up the commute for you. i commute on a vespa and love it. i don't take any freeways though and my drive is only 6 miles each way. if you don't mind the risk, i think its a good idea. not only are saving time, but you would also save money.
Ok, I can see all of the advantages of riding a motorbike to work and I agree with all of them. Now, on the risks. Is it really true that the risk of getting maimed/injured or getting into a fatal incident is much higher than driving a regular car? Are we sure that these risks are not a bit over-exagerated? Of course, everything is proportional to the skills of the rider/driver, but with everything else equal, how much more proned to major accident is riding a motorbike than driving a car?
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Old 01-17-2009, 06:51 PM
 
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i don't think your odds of actually getting in an accident on a motorcycle versus a car are any higher, but if you do get in an accident, obviously the odds of serious injury are much higher. i have had some close calls in the year or so that i've been riding, but i'm still unscathed and plan to keep it that way.
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Old 01-18-2009, 04:01 AM
 
Location: Malibu/Miami Beach
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I ride bikes all the time, this is one of the reasons to live in California.
However get some good training, get a good bike and take it easy.
Don't Zig Zag in and out of the traffic, your bike will have the power to out accelerate any four wheeler on the road.
Avoid if possible the big freeways and look for alternative routes you will still get to your destination 30% faster than in a car.
One thing to remember when you ride a bike you can get quite dirty,all the crap and dust on the roads can make you look like a cowboy who has just hit town from the trail.
So if you have to look smart for the office make sure you have a change of clothes.
There is no finer feeling on Earth than to pull up in between two $60k SUV`s full of screaming kids on your “cool” bike as you roar off you can feel the envy and confusion in the air,brief recollections of the freedom of high school days gone in the lingering exhaust note of a “sick” Harley.
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:13 AM
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Risk/reward of bikes (or crappy cars or SUVs) makes little sense to most...

Smarter to live closer to office and/or commute early and late (arrive <6AM and leave >7PM)....much better crowd of focused, higher-end drivers and quicker, safer drive

Am a car fanatic; have never been in collision, but carefully weigh risk/reward of any perf car, esp vs being rear-ended in a high-speed fwy deceleration...or if facing an unavoidable head-on collision in my wkend mtn twisties drives

Any car is cheap vs costs of surviving a major collision needing major surgeries and/or suffering lifelong disabilities...
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Old 01-18-2009, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Malibu/Miami Beach
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Risk/reward of bikes (or crappy cars or SUVs) makes little sense to most...

Smarter to live closer to office and/or commute early and late (arrive <6AM and leave >7PM)....much better crowd of focused, higher-end drivers and quicker, safer drive

Am a car fanatic; have never been in collision, but carefully weigh risk/reward of any perf car, esp vs being rear-ended in a high-speed fwy deceleration...or if facing an unavoidable head-on collision in my wkend mtn twisties drives

Any car is cheap vs costs of surviving a major collision needing major surgeries and/or suffering lifelong disabilities...
Live every day as if it is your last, because one day you will be correct.
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:49 PM
 
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Take the Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) basic rider course before you make your decision.

Motorcycle Safety Foundation

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Of course, everything is proportional to the skills of the rider/driver, but with everything else equal, how much more proned to major accident is riding a motorbike than driving a car?
Short answer, YES, you are at higher risk on a motorcycle that in a car. Simply put, no matter how skillful YOU are as a rider, you are much more susceptible to the lack of skill by OTHER careless and stupid drivers. They will cut you off, turn in front of you with no warning, pull out in front of you from driveways and side streets, open their door in in front of you, etc. Inconvenient and annoyng when you are driving a car, but a matter of life and death when you're on a bike.

You need to develop a completely different safety mentality when riding a motorcycle. It's almost like a 6th sense. I safely commuted on a motorcycle on Southern Ca freeways for many years and can tell you it takes a while to develop this skill, which is why motorcycle fatalities are highest among new riders, particularly the first year. My advice, again, take the MSF course and take things easy for the first few years.
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:16 PM
 
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Risk/reward of bikes (or crappy cars or SUVs) makes little sense to most...

Any car is cheap vs costs of surviving a major collision needing major surgeries and/or suffering lifelong disabilities...
The frustration of goingat 15/20 mph fighting for spaces and lanes on the freeways, for 4 hours per day for 25 or 30 years can disable you as well, both mentally and physically. That much time of one's life is spent in almost inescapable frustration means same amount of time taken away from spending quality time with family or the significant other.

Don't get me wrong, I am as well concerned about losing my life riding a motorbike to work.

The bailout money should had gone to building more efficient and convenient public transportation means, not to those wall street entities. Just ranting.
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Old 01-18-2009, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Malibu/Miami Beach
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Open you`re door on me MF and you`re Family will go on a long holiday!!
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