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Old 03-16-2007, 08:55 PM
 
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Santa Barbara is not safe, just a bunch of Mexican gangs killing. They even do it in broad daylight in front of the police, very bad city.

 
Old 03-16-2007, 09:19 PM
 
Location: San Gabriel Valley, CA
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A joke, right...?
 
Old 03-16-2007, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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Not entirely. See this link:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...home-headlines

Apparently, a 15-year-old boy was killed by another teen, and the police are saying it's gang related.

Of course, this has probably never happened before in Santa Barbara, which is why it made the news. Such an occurrence somewhere like South L.A. or Compton would get hardly any notice. I find such inequality to be very sad. Human life is human life, after all, and even if they are gang members, they're still their mothers' children.

There was a murder at a gas station in Chatsworth, a nice area in the San Fernando Valley (and probably nicer then than it is now; this happened about fifteen years ago). That also made the news as a very "big deal".

The media loves to scare people; that way their ratings go up, and they get to run things like: "6 out of 10 people in L.A. don't feel safe in their own homes. Check in with us at 11:00 to get these life-saving tips!" (These tips invariably end up being common sense things like: lock your doors consistently, don't go out alone to bad areas late at night, etc.)

But don't get me started...
 
Old 03-17-2007, 12:23 AM
 
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Not entirely. See this link:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...home-headlines

Apparently, a 15-year-old boy was killed by another teen, and the police are saying it's gang related.

Of course, this has probably never happened before in Santa Barbara, which is why it made the news. Such an occurrence somewhere like South L.A. or Compton would get hardly any notice. I find such inequality to be very sad. Human life is human life, after all, and even if they are gang members, they're still their mothers' children.

There was a murder at a gas station in Chatsworth, a nice area in the San Fernando Valley (and probably nicer then than it is now; this happened about fifteen years ago). That also made the news as a very "big deal".
According to the Times, this was only the 2nd gang related killing in Santa Barbara in the last 5 years. SB Co. has less gang activity than any other SoCal county.

Obviously, where murders take place (and the race/ethnicity of the victim) determine a lot in the eyes of the media. Notice the media's fixation with blondes. Notice how Laci Peterson's murder got far more coverage than a very similar murder in Oakland that same week. Notice how the discovery of a meth house right by the water in Newport Beach made big news, while a similar operation in Garden Grove would not have made any news, not even a small blurb in the Register Etc. etc. etc.
 
Old 03-17-2007, 12:28 AM
 
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Default It's no joke, and it's not the first time for Santa Barbara

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A joke, right...?
Not at all! He was 14 years old on Wednesday morning, but by the afternoon -- dead! Check the local news: http://www.keyt.com/news/local/6500067.html

This is not the first time mobs of gang members brawl in downtown Santa "Bruta" Barbara, either. The eastside-westside rivalries, bordered by State Street, are vicious and real. It's SB's dirty little secret, and it's getting harder to hide.

The sad thing was that the 14-year old was not associated with any gangs. Some schools let out early on Wednesday, and the victim was downtown with friends, who got caught up in the mayhem. Not hard to do. People were running around trying to flee the area. It was quite a chaotic scene, evidently.

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Old 03-17-2007, 12:37 AM
 
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Default Not true

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Of course, this has probably never happened before in Santa Barbara, which is why it made the news.
Oh yes it has! This was not simply one gang member against another, it was a full-blown brawl with dozens of kids involved, and it has happened before. Smaller incidents of one-on-one gang incidents also happen with regularity in Santa Barbara. They're not always fatal, but they happen frequently. Wednesday's incident now has the PD on alert for acts of retaliation.

Even little-tiny Carpinteria, population 13,000, has gangs and violence associated with them. A gang shooting at Motel 6 there in January put two people in the hospital.

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Old 03-17-2007, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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Ok, I stand (or sit!) corrected. I guess gangs and the associated violence are everywhere in this country now.
 
Old 03-17-2007, 02:49 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Of course, that wasn't the case not long ago, Sandy, although many would have us believe mendaciously that even in the 1950's we had a great deal of trouble with drive-by shootings and such.

Say, Wally, did you hear the Westside Locos did a drive-by today?
 
Old 03-17-2007, 06:27 AM
 
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Beautiful small city but with some long-ignored problems.. gang graffiti popping up daily.. public schools overrun by Spanish-speakers.. begging on State St... and not to mention the high housing cost.
 
Old 03-17-2007, 10:25 AM
 
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Default funny

I am not worried in santa barbara.I think it is one of the least dangerous places you could go.The worst thing that could happen is a college kid might puke on your shoes stumbling out of one of the bars.
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