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Old 02-22-2009, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Driving in LA is fun. There's just so much to look at through the windshield.




It's like watching TV but better.
Here's channel 69:


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Old 02-22-2009, 05:34 PM
 
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Here's channel 69:
That's DEFINITELY not LA.




















There's no way the other side would have such little traffic.
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Old 02-22-2009, 06:14 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I've never seen any other metro with a HOV lane that only requires two people in the car.
The HOV lanes in the DC Metro area only require two people. Trust me, I lived there.

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Finally, LA's mass transit is the worst out of any major metro area - SF, Portland, Chicago, NYC, Boston, DC, Philadelphia - except for maybe Phoenix. For those who say it isn't too bad, you're making Moderator cut: lemonade out of Moderator cut: lemons.
Ever tried mass transit in Miami, Houston, Dallas, Baltimore, or Detroit? Detroit doesn't even have a single rail line - LA has four (soon to be five) of them.
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:02 PM
 
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That's because Detroit doesn't need rail. Driving rush hour in Detroit is like driving in LA at 10pm. Plus I can find 50 parking spots in any area of metro Detroit during the time it takes me to find a parking spot in LA.

Comparing buses, if you take the Woodward Ave Bus, you can get from Campus Martius to Pontiac and back in the time it takes to ride from Hollywood to the west side. Woodward Ave is a freakin' autobahn compared to any artery in LA.
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:15 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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i disagree.

i have an active social life. on weekends i can go from crenshaw to old town to the eastside.

even in the rain.

sometimes i take freeways, sometimes i take surface streets.
its no big deal. you learn to deal. but it does help that i limit my driving to the weekends.

i love driving!
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Hot Springs, AR
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Driving in LA is cool. Especially if you know the back streets and shortcuts.
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Here's comments from a blog on the LA Times website about the traffic situation - almost all of the comments are from people who live in L.A.:

Have you finally had it? | Bottleneck Blog | Los Angeles Times

A typical post:

"We are a laughing stock of the world. I live 2.5 miles from my office (Westwood to Brentwood) and it can take me 45 minutes during rush hour. I don't work conventional hours so I try to avoid it. But if I can't get out of the office by 4:00, I feel stuck and stranded there until 7:00. That's a ridiculous way to live. To feel "I can't get there from here" when my trips are all very short indeed, is ridiculous. Sure living in Westwood means that I have everything I need within 5 miles, and yet I still feel I have to hide and I cannot run a single errand past noon."
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:28 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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One possible key to being happy in LA, commute-wise, is to live and work along the metro lines. A friend of mine lived in Koreatown and worked in downtown, and she was plenty happy about that. It's actually surprising how good the public transportation in a very limited expanse of LA (the city, not the county which is just balls).

This is a bit of a sidenote, but it's just so odd to me that a place with such beautiful year-round weather would do so little advocate biking and walking. Even when it's incredibly hot, it's rarely uncomfortably muggy, and cutting through the air while biking just makes it so much better. The only thing is how limited bike lanes are, and how little consideration drivers have for bicyclists.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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This is a bit of a sidenote, but it's just so odd to me that a place with such beautiful year-round weather would do so little advocate biking and walking. Even when it's incredibly hot, it's rarely uncomfortably muggy, and cutting through the air while biking just makes it so much better. The only thing is how limited bike lanes are, and how little consideration drivers have for bicyclists.
There's a sentiment in what some would call "granola cities" like Boulder, Portland, and San Francisco, that cycling is cool and responsible. L.A. doesn't have much of that type of culture. L.A. is more focused on looking good, looking glamorous, and privatizing transportation to the point that paying a valet to park your car is seen as normal, and if you want to park your own car when a valet is available, you're seen as a bit of an oddball.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:46 PM
 
Location: NYC
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if you want to park your own car when a valet is available, you're seen as a bit of an oddball.
One thing I don't understand is why so many people pay $4+ for valet parking when there is plenty of free street parking (gasp!) available. Just circle the block, find a spot, read the signs, and then....here's the big one....WALK to wherever you were going. I do it all the time and trust me, it's no big deal!

Although I must say, Santa Monica and Venice have developed quite a large and visible cycling culture. You see tons of people biking up and down Main Street and Abbot Kinney Blvd, many times carrying items in baskets attached to the front of the bike, so it's likely they're not just cycling for pleasure.
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