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Old 02-27-2009, 01:37 PM
 
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:50 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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as for your question, what do you mean by gentrification?

i dont think this area needs gentrification, i think it needs revitalization and a bit of polishing.

an article in the paper today was talking about bringing a wal mart to florence. as much as i think people need inexpensive wares, i think this mega store would harm the community more than it would help it.

in that sense i am against "gentrification". but i would like to know what you mean by gent.

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Old 02-27-2009, 01:55 PM
 
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Why? Why not revitalize the nabe? Why does it have to gentrified (i.e ensuing gentrification will kick out our already diminishing working class Black population, and effectively close the gates of affordability on the city proper) ? . Based on what little you've said, you've come off as a arrogant, self-righteous, holier than thou individual bent on imposing your way of life and creed on "inferior' others.

Does it ever strike you that there are normal people in this city who DON'T (or want to) live a lifestyle revolving around trendy Thai/Tapa restaurants, uber posh lofts, gastropubs and lounges or silly cupcake shops etc ? How many Venice's, Silverlake's, WeHo's, etc does our city need?

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Old 02-27-2009, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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How many Venice's, Silverlake's, WeHo's, etc does our city need?
LOL...love this.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Northern Arizona
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Polish and revitalize. Force people to get past the notion that South Central is nothing but a gang infested cesspool . Forget gentrification, just elevate/revitalize the area to a point where you can mention it casually in conversation without getting a horrified reaction from someone.

All this, of course, is much easier said than done. Even revitalization (not gentrification) would require serious time, money and work.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:07 PM
 
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yup. there has been a campaign going on for several years now to refurbish the florence corridor. from alameda to central. its been YEARS in the making. the only thing to happen so far is a new shopping center at florence and alameda.

trees were supposed to be planted. streets lines. sidewalks improved. storefronts regulated (branding and colors and such).

its all take a bit too long. it always does, but particularly so in poor urban areas.

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Polish and revitalize. Force people to get past the notion that South Central is nothing but a gang infested cesspool . Forget gentrification, just elevate/revitalize the area to a point where you can mention it casually in conversation without getting a horrified reaction from someone.

All this, of course, is much easier said than done. Even revitalization (not gentrification) would require serious time, money and work.
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Old 02-27-2009, 03:23 PM
 
Location: RSM
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yup. there has been a campaign going on for several years now to refurbish the florence corridor. from alameda to central. its been YEARS in the making. the only thing to happen so far is a new shopping center at florence and alameda.

trees were supposed to be planted. streets lines. sidewalks improved. storefronts regulated (branding and colors and such).

its all take a bit too long. it always does, but particularly so in poor urban areas.
Honestly, areas like this need to look at what Hawaiian Gardens has done with their city. Find a tax cow, get them to come in, and milk them for all it's worth to revitalize the city. Some gentrification has happened in Hawaiian Gardens, but they've also just done a great job of cleaning up the neighborhoods and getting police to really patrol the area. The Hawaiian Gardens Casino has really turned around a city that was constantly teetering on the edge with little money, poor police presence, and bad gang and crime issues, and it was simply because the added tax revenue has overflowed the coffers and allowed the city to be proactive in refurbishing it's image. The last real challenge they have is to improve the schools, but even those have improved somewhat.
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Old 02-27-2009, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Northern Arizona
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In what ways did the casino in Commerce impact that city/area?
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Old 02-27-2009, 03:42 PM
 
Location: California
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Gentrified? I wonder how many people on this board even know the boundaries of south-central Los Angeles. To many, any part of L.A. they think is "ghetto" must be south central. Unless of course you are talking about East L.A.

I have always thought there would eventually be a revitalization of south central. And no, not because of some City Hall engineered plan to revitalize the area. I am not sure those kinds of plans actually work. I think it will eventally be revitalized simply because of its location. It is centrally located. Imagine what our freeways will look like in another 20 years. Imagine the time it will take to commute from outer burbs into the city. Imagine the cost of fuel associated with it.

Certain parts of south central will eventually become attractive. It will probably start out with young, single, educated folks looking to get established. People in this group are more nontraditional and willing to take risks. I am not saying there will be millionaires taking up residence on Exposition Avenue. I am just saying the day may be coming where it will make economic sense for a middle class Angeleno to live on Exposition Avenue. And if it makes economic sense everything else will adjust.
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Old 02-27-2009, 03:46 PM
 
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Why? Why not revitalize the nabe? Why does it have to gentrified (i.e ensuing gentrification will kick out our already diminishing working class Black population, and effectively close the gates of affordability on the city proper) ? . Based on what little you've said, you've come off as a arrogant, self-righteous, holier than thou individual bent on imposing your way of life and creed on "inferior' others.

Does it ever strike you that there are normal people in this city who DON'T (or want to) live a lifestyle revolving around trendy Thai/Tapa restaurants, uber posh lofts, gastropubs and lounges or silly cupcake shops etc ? How many Venice's, Silverlake's, WeHo's, etc does our city need?
I kind of find your reaction ironic after you posted this on another thread:

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Koreatown would be so much better with less of the arrogant, chauvinistic, non-inclusionary, smug as hell Korean immigrants.

They despise and are weary of anybody who's not Korean, and pollute the visual aesthetics of the beautiful nabe with their multitude of bible shops, fishing gear shops, shady pool halls and those mysterious Korean-only "day care" houses.

What's even more disturbing, is that aside from the university educated yuppies, the others will look at you as if you are out of your mind if you have the audacity to speak English. Add all of the filth (not grit, filth !), congestion and Ktown quickly loses its luster.

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