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Old 03-10-2009, 07:01 PM
 
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why is it that la county has more murders than la? i have been reading in the papers that la murders and crime are going down and yet i read how people are saying la has gang problems...so which is it..is it improving or getting worse?
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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why is it that la county has more murders than la?
Not sure if this question is clear. The obvious answer is because LA city is inside of LA county and every murder in LA City is also in LA County.

The other possible question is why are there more murders in those parts of LA County which excludes LA City. First of all, are there?
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
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L.A. County includes the city of Los Angeles. Just like Charles said, every murder within L.A. is also in L.A. County. Murders in the smaller cities of L.A County like Pasadena, Santa Clarita, Long Beach, Diamond Bar, Malibu, Torrance, Compton, etc.... are also part of L.A. County, but not part of the city.

Thus L.A. County includes the murders happening in any city or area in the county. The L.A. city statistic is only murders within the city borders.

Here is a map:

L.A. County is the whole map, L.A. city is just the white part.
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:16 PM
 
Location: El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río Porciúncula
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why is it that la county has more murders than la? i have been reading in the papers that la murders and crime are going down and yet i read how people are saying la has gang problems...so which is it..is it improving or getting worse?
"City" has more law enforcement. "County" is outlying areas, where law enforcement is more spread out and takes longer to respond.

That's my theory.
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:17 PM
 
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LA County is huge even without LA City and still includes a lot of ghetto.
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:52 AM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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pretty much what folks said.

LA county includes total numbers as compiled by the sheriff, and other depts. LAPD might only handle LA city homicides and crime, but Sheriff will assist smaller cities with homicides and other major crimes. LAPD reports their homicides, sheriff, who handle unincorporated parts of the county and smaller cities will report the rest of the homicides.

and true, crime in LA proper is decreasing, but certain other areas are seeing a rise. this can possibly be linked to the rocky delgadillos city injunctions against gang members. these injunctions have placed gang members in correctional facilities for something like "associating" or breaking curfew. but what these injunctions within LA city boundaries have also done is force the thugs to leave LA proper in favor of outlaying areas in the county. so the problem is just moving about. there are less thugs on the streets but at the same time crime is becoming more gypsy like, its "roamin".

its the same with the homeless pop. ya its decreasing in DT and skid row, but its showing up in other parts of LA and other smaller cities immediately surrounding LA borders. the problem is just moving around. its getting smaller. but its still there.

and in reality, crime and violence in LA are a far more complicated subject.
crimes goes up. crime goes down.
for myriad reasons.

maybe a reclassification of inmates, which leads to early release, might result in higher crime rates. who knows. lots happens here.
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