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Old 03-17-2009, 12:40 PM
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The slow improvement realized in South LA was going strong up until the current recession. Latino families have been moving into the area for several decades & make-up a majority of residents. Property values have gone up & the families are mostly working-class\ blue-collar workers. For the first time in many years, homeowners have been replacing renters in South LA. People who live\ own their own homes tend to be much more likely to improve their property & stabilize the neighborhood.

Don't forget that Ranchos San Pedro\ Dominguez\ Los Nietos were the original settlements in South LA & farms covered the Basin w/ Californios the residents until Anglos moved in from the mid-late 1880's onward. It always amazes me how limited the historic perspective is of some Californians. Hello! Have you ever noticed that almost all the names of cities\ valleys\ mountains\ streets are SPANISH!
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Old 03-17-2009, 12:41 PM
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black folks is still here. they have just been moving around. as do all people. certain neighborhoods in northeast LA and the 101 corridor have gone from being largely brown to largely white. that dont mean hispanics are disappearing. it just means they are in other places.

if you think black people dont exist, spend an afternoon at 7thst/Metro sta.

they might not be concentrated like they were before, my peoples aint going anywhere. and dont fogret, that altho ATL has become the mecca of black money and entertainment, the world still comes to LA to "make it". many people move here. black folk included. and many of them dont want to move into the traditional black neighborhoods. some do. some prefer the gentrifying areas from hollywood south along the 101. or the south bay. thats one of the trends.


and as for the comments about latinos revitalizing areas and having strong male figures... hold your horses. latinos aint without their own dysfunction. they are buying real estate and changing areas, thats true to some degree. but i would also argue that there are blacks who are doign the same thing. some areas of LA. along vermont/normandie, south of slauson, have been heavily black and have some very nice areas that are being rehabbed (altho they were never blighted, i guess they are being 'updated'). they are still very black. and very nice.

you cant say that one group is doing something the other isnt.

at the end of the day. my black and brown folks is all around.
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The outcome is that Blacks are integrating into all areas of the city. The old racial neighborhoods include Asians\ Anglos moving into Ladera Hts\ Inglewood. On my street there are 3 Black families [bi-racial in 2]. 2 Asian families, & lesbian couple\ 2 Latino families & 10 Anglo families. People live where they can afford to live & not because they want to be around their own race\ ethnicity.
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^Out of curiosity, do hispanics extend the term "Anglo" to Asians and African Americans that are culturally "White/Anglo-Saxon?" I'm just wondering because there are a lot of racial/racialistic nuances in Hispanic/Latin American culture.
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The outcome is that Blacks are integrating into all areas of the city. The old racial neighborhoods include Asians\ Anglos moving into Ladera Hts\ Inglewood. On my street there are 3 Black families [bi-racial in 2]. 2 Asian families, & lesbian couple\ 2 Latino families & 10 Anglo families. People live where they can afford to live & not because they want to be around their own race\ ethnicity.
True at that. I go to Venice and I see it all the time.
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^Out of curiosity, do hispanics extend the term "Anglo" to Asians and African Americans that are culturally "White/Anglo-Saxon?" I'm just wondering because there are a lot of racial/racialistic nuances in Hispanic/Latin American culture.
Anglo means non-hispanic white race. Latinos are part of the white\ Caucasian race. Asians\ Africans are different races.
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^Out of curiosity, do hispanics extend the term "Anglo" to Asians and African Americans that are culturally "White/Anglo-Saxon?" I'm just wondering because there are a lot of racial/racialistic nuances in Hispanic/Latin American culture.
Uh..no..
the term "Anglo-Saxon" is used here in the US as well..
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Anglo means non-hispanic white race. Latinos are part of the white\ Caucasian race. Asians\ Africans are different races.
Race is a social construct, but when it comes down to it most "Latinos" in California are of Spanish and Aztec/Native American descent. I took cultural anthropology in college so don't try to BS me, Hispanic/Latino is more of a ethnic/cultural term rather than racial one.

So my question still stands, why wouldn't a person of Korean, Chinese, or African descent be considered "Anglo" if they were culturally the same as "non-Hispanic whites?"
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As a reminder -- the OP asked whether the number of blacks in Los Angeles has decreased. Let's stay on topic, please.
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Good one!

And while Hispanics are indeed purchasing property, improving the property? Well, lets just say that generally isn't the case (granted, the neighborhoods aren't in much better shape when owned by Blacks, but I've seen in ALOT in South Gate, Watts, Compton, South LA, Oakland, etc) -- We're talking overgrown grass, shopping carts and cars on the lawn, the residents sometimes even tag up their own places, rusted old children toys in the front, ugly iron gates and stucko-add on's, etc. I've also seen many coyotes snap up homes (particularly ones with garages) to shelter illegal immigrants. Hopefully what I've seen, extensive as it is, is done by a minority of homeowners. That said, I applaud the Hispanics for having a sharing my love for owning property



And I think the Black population is somewhere around 6-7%, per 2008 estimates.
I don't know about the African American population in general, but I do know that some areas that were significantly compacted with a high concentration of African Americans are no longer...likely due to being priced out of the area. Things were at the peak back in the mid 70's to early 90's in particular, then when home prices and values started to increase, the African American population in California general went down.

On a side note, that neighborhood you posted looks an awful lot like the movie Friday...
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