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Old 04-25-2014, 09:32 AM
 
Location: California, Japan, Russia, Mexico, Costa Rica
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I don't know what you are all talking about. Driving through somewhere and living there are COMPLETELY different. As far as Detroit and Chicago being so "hard", the logistics just aren't there. The crime rate is higher in LA not just because there are 3 distinct types of organized crime, but more so because there is no 3 to 6 month "hibernation" period that slows down the WHOLE metropolis. I have lived all over the World and been even more places than most people will read about and to live in a place that is invitingly beautiful year round (and say what you will about the "seasons" because I like summer and winter sucks) and to be economically, emotionally and physically oppressed is like living in heaven and not hearing the word. I fought HARD to get out and I have been to Chicago, I have been to Cabrini Green when it was still "Cabrini Green" and the only thing ghetto about it is the way it looked. There wasn't anything especially scary about it besides the cold, hated that. I've spent the past 20 years travelling overseas and I am retired and back home in southern California but I don't go back to South Central often, once last year to show my wife (who is from Japan) what a REAL ghetto feels like. Don't drive through, stop and smell the murder for a few days, see how palm trees make you feel then.
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:40 PM
 
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Historically speaking, much of Compton was just as statistically violent as any of the most violent places in America and the whole world. The western hemisphere is generally much more violent than the eastern hemisphere. Nearly all of the top 50 most violent cities in the world are located in Latin America and the United States.

The Most Violent Cities In The World - Business Insider

As of 2013, the fourth most violent city in the world was Distrito Central, Honduras which had a murder rate of 101 per 100K residents. Compton, in its early 90's murder capital heyday, had a similar murder rate of around 100 per 100K.

http://www.newsweek.com/how-compton-...ove-back-76361

So, no, Compton's reputation for being a world-class ghetto was not exaggerated by the media. Twenty years ago Compton, as a whole, was just as statistically deadly as one of the top four most violent cities in the entire world today. But even that can be argued because if we broke down the murder rate of individual blocks and neighborhoods in both cities and including those in the handful of Latin American cities with "higher" overall murder rates for the entire city, the numbers would be very similar. If you looked at the worst neighborhoods in Compton in that era, the murder rate would have easily exceeded 200+ per 100K in certain blocks. A bad neighborhood is a bad neighborhood. Even America's "safest" big cities have neighborhoods that are just as violent as the worst areas of Baltimore, Detroit or Oakland. A citywide average looking at crime rates is not an accurate gauge to tell whether an entire city is "safe" or not. The hood is the hood in every city.

Looks of well-maintanied houses and palm trees have nothing to do with the danger of California ghettos. Most people in every ghetto in America are normal nonviolent working or middle class people with 9 to 5 jobs. California's mild weather has a lot to do with the looks of its inner city areas. But what gives California ghettos away is bars on the windows and other thick steel barricades that people use to keep people far away from their windows and front doors. But California ghettos are infamous throughout the world for a reason. California's brand of ghetto violence often involves drive by shootings, gang violence apart from the drug trade and large military grade weapons (i.e. AK-47's, AR-15's). Not to mention the ubiquitous Los Angeles gang culture of Bloods, Crips, MS-13 and 18th Street that has spread throughout the country and the world. When kids in the Bronx and Baltimore are claiming Piru (the name of an actual street in Compton) wearing all red and kids in El Salvador are claiming 18th Street and wearing L.A. Dodgers hats, the reputation is forever solidified.

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Old 09-20-2014, 06:40 PM
 
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A lot of very wealthy people live in L.A. To them anyone making less than $100,000/yr is ghetto.
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:57 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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A lot of very wealthy people live in L.A. To them anyone making less than $100,000/yr is ghetto.

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Old 09-20-2014, 09:03 PM
 
Location: San Gabriel Valley, CA
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I don't know why the OP would claim Compton isn't a ghetto, but he sure did get his fun out of this, anyway. Four years and thirty pages!
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Old 09-20-2014, 10:17 PM
 
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A lot of very wealthy people live in L.A. To them anyone making less than $100,000/yr is ghetto.
But the statistics about the history of Compton were already broken down. Truthfully, when Compton was at it's worst at the dawn of the 90's, it was more ghetto and violent, as a whole, than cities like Baltimore, Philly, Chicago or any of the other major cities marked by their inner cities with "scary" boarded-up abandominiums. Compton's murder rate was 100 per 100K. Baltimore is 600K people and Baltimore has never clocked at anywhere near 600 murders a year. Baltimore's all-time high murder count was 353 in 1993. But... but... Baltimore has so many dirty abandoned boarded up rowhomes, flashing blue police box lights high atop street signs and loitering scary black people at all hours. It can't be true.

But Compton's all-time high murder rate was higher than the major cities like Baltimore and Chicago because there weren't any safe, wealthy neighborhoods or spacious downtown/tourist areas to counter the high crime rate ghetto neighborhoods in Compton. Despite Compton's knickname of the "Hub City", it was as far from that as you can get unless you are speaking of crime and ghettoization. Compton was a gang-infested suburb of 100K people, not a major mid-sized to large city with wealthy neighborhoods, a busy downtown district with skyscrapers crowded with commuting white collar salarymen and tourist attractions. Even Baltimore has downtown and the Inner Harbor as well as a few wealthy neighborhoods tucked away. DC has always looked much better maintained than Baltimore. DC was always more like a sunbelt city where the ghetto areas were more defined by steel bars on the windows and clean streets rather than boarded up blocks and blocks of abandoned rowhomes. Yet, ironically, DC's murder rate in the early 90's was much higher than that of Baltimore. Appearances are always deceiving.

When speaking of the deceivingly middle class appearance of Compton or any other "nice looking" California inner city area, South Central L.A.'s legendary Ice Cube summed it up best in this classic 1989 interview when he said that people in California ghettos "don't look poor because they get what they want. It's how they get it that means it just ain't safe...":

http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...ssic-interview

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Old 09-21-2014, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Comptons reputation has mostly to do with the gang problem that it had in the early 90's. Obviously the amount of tax revenue that Los Angeles County/California generates can turn a city from a gangland hotspot to a decent place to raise a family in less than 10 years.

And if any region in America has the potential to change the way it looks in a short amount of time, it's Los Angeles. SO MUCH MONEY!
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Old 09-24-2014, 12:15 PM
 
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Compton isn't bad anymore. It was a violent war zone from the 1970s to 2000 or so. After 2000 everything started to drop dramatically.
The crips and bloods originated from Compton, which had hundreds of different gangs in that city alone.
Now they want to reform Compton and clean up its history.
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Old 09-24-2014, 02:08 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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Compton isn't bad anymore. It was a violent war zone from the 1970s to 2000 or so. After 2000 everything started to drop dramatically.
Compton still has a high violent crime rate. Just because it isn't a war zone any more doesn't mean it isn't bad any more.
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Old 09-24-2014, 02:58 PM
 
Location: John & Ken-ville
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A ghetto in my opinion doesn't have palm trees or grass.
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