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Old 02-28-2010, 04:08 PM
 
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My buddy lives in culver city and he barely pays anything for his energy usage. Reason is that he doesn't need to run the heat and a/c very often.

Here in the northeast I pay $175 on the coldest month, and $100 a month in the warmer months. this is for an 850sqft apt
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:17 PM
 
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"Maaaaaan" what has happened to LA and California since I've been there last in April 1993?

Seems like all has broken loose.

Saddening really.
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:20 PM
 
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My buddy lives in culver city and he barely pays anything for his energy usage. Reason is that he doesn't need to run the heat and a/c very often.

Here in the northeast I pay $175 on the coldest month, and $100 a month in the warmer months. this is for an 850sqft apt
I spend $100/mo for electricity year round for a 2/2 apartment, about half of which is for the water heater. You may not need heat or a lot of AC right along the coast, but our electric rates are among the highest in the country so it can get expensive very quickly.
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Old 02-28-2010, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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"Maaaaaan" what has happened to LA and California since I've been there last in April 1993?

Seems like all has broken loose.

Saddening really.
Rents doubled and house prices tripled. Otherwise it's pretty much the same.
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Old 02-28-2010, 06:08 PM
 
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Rents doubled and house prices tripled. Otherwise it's pretty much the same.
How do people do it financially then?

OUUUUUCH!

I know when some Californians relocate to NJ it seems like a discount to them even though NJ is no "picnic in the park" COL either.
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Old 02-28-2010, 06:12 PM
 
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How do people do it financially then?

OUUUUUCH!
People lower their standards until they can afford housing. This includes living in tiny condos, having roommates, living in the hood, or commuting long distances.
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Old 02-28-2010, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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How do people do it financially then?

OUUUUUCH!

I know when some Californians relocate to NJ it seems like a discount to them even though NJ is no "picnic in the park" COL either.
As EscapeCalifornia said, suck it up and live more densely.

Those who have lived there since 1993 will probably either have bought when houses were $250k instead of $750k+ (anytime before about 2000 would have been fine), or are sitting tight in rent-controlled apartments. I'm pretty sure my old downstairs neighbor in the Fairfax district hasn't cracked the $1k rent barrier yet, for a 2-bedroom place off Melrose. When I moved out in 2002, my landlady charged the next sucker $1850/month. (I had been paying $1100.) It's probably like $2200+ now. Insane.

I imagine a couple more years of double-digit unemployment (which seems likely) will knock some of these prices back to reality, as I'm sure you remember also happened in the early 1990s compared with the late 1980s. I don't think rents/house prices reached 1989 levels again until 2000 or 2001. Adjusted for inflation, I doubt they'll EVER be as high again as they were in, say, 2007.
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