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Old 06-08-2010, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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It's a feature of modern urban life that many people do not know their neighbors. It is debatable whether this is any worse in Los Angeles than in many other cities. If you are going to a smaller town, then people there are much more likely to know their neighbors. (By the way, is this the reason you can't wait to leave?)
I agree with you. I never said this just happens in LA. There are dozens of reasons why I'm leaving.
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Old 06-08-2010, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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Part of this reason is because many people don't speak English so they can't even talk with their neighbors.
That's a bit lazy. If you are an English speaker and your neighbors aren't, it behooves you to at least make the effort to get to know them, or you have a potentially unsafe situation, with people fearing and distrusting one another just because of communication and culture barriers. One will find greater peace of mind living in some agreed upon level of solidarity with their neighbors rather than in an ongoing tense standoff. Might sound like silly hippie-commune shyte to some agitated people, but it is truth in L.A. and here in the Bay Area. Diversity =/= bad thing.

And if people can't hang with living next to "those kind of people", then...don't.
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Old 06-08-2010, 01:26 PM
 
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I think people knowing their neighbors really depends most on whether you're single or raising a family (and that also comes with renter/owner divisions too). My sister has all the neighborhood kids at her house and they know every one of their neighbors who pop in and out. This is Long Beach, and it's all very, very friendly. Of course, they're also heavily involved in sports clubs and leagues too. So it goes without saying that it's a matter of who you are personally than what the city is, impersonally. I know some of my neighbors, not all, am quite friendly with one of them, and though some are of foreign heritage they do speak English. I could get to know them better. But I guess all I'm saying is, if that's the kind of environment you want for yourself then SoCal isn't actively out to refuse it to you. OTOH, it's not just gonna hand it to you either.

As to gender roles in dating, I think it's important for posters from other parts of the country to remember that some of us actually have experienced other parts of the country too. And if we're going to pose generalizations, then I would mention having lived in an area where ladies were anything but, but presumed to be treated as such because they dressed the part. And there were gentlemen who in private conversation had attitudes and phobias that were not gentlemanly at all. I was uncomfortable with a lot of what seemed under the surface, so in that sense I understand feeling completely out of place and was glad to be back in California.
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Old 06-08-2010, 01:51 PM
 
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What type of sales did you do? Iím interested in sales and will be moving to LA in a month. Any advice?
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Old 06-08-2010, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I made a compliment is all, I didn't say I could, would or should leave so don't tell me what to do.

You said you envied the OP for leaving....I guess I was wrong. You really love it here!
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Old 06-08-2010, 02:06 PM
 
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I found LA to be the most friendly place we've ever lived, actually. I knew my neighbors (although we weren't best friends by any means), felt part of a larger community, had no problems interacting with people who didn't speak English (maybe long conversations are out in those circumstances, but you can communicate a great deal without a common language). I think it all depends primarily on where you live, but that's true of any city, town, or suburb. I don't think LA is any more unfriendly than most places, and in my experience, I found it to be even more friendly than the other places I've lived. Then again, I do appreciate diversity and liked the feeling that LA is a city where people from all over the country and world, as well as those who were born and raised there, all can come together. And as such a huge city there's such a variety of people; the sheer size means there's a nearly unlimited pool of potential friends, things to do, etc. That, of course, means there will be some people you hate or at least don't like, but it also means that even if you're interested in the most esoteric random things (or only want to date men who fall within very tight parameters) you'll find others out there who are looking for the same thing.
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Old 06-08-2010, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Default Los Angeles - desirable or the pits?

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I agree with you. I never said this just happens in LA. There are dozens of reasons why I'm leaving.
Thanks for your response. I am curious (not trying to put you down) about your reasons for leaving. Just because I like it here doesn't mean I expect everyone else to. In fact, let me start with the things which even I see as negatives, and ask you to continue:
1) Traffic congestion
2) High taxes
3) High cost of housing
4) Dangerous neighborhoods in some areas
O.K., go for it! (and I'll probably respond with what I see as the positives).
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Old 06-08-2010, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/ Seattle-Bellevue/ Cupertino, Cali
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I cannot wait to leave LA. I'm a 30 year old single, professional female who made over 100K last year and I feel POOR. I'm going back to the South to invest in real estate where I can actually build wealth and plan an awesome future. I thought about staying, but every time I see these rent prices, it makes me so angry to think how these prices keep everyone so poor! I like money though... perhaps security and future-building is not a priority for most?

Angelinos pay 9.75% in sales tax BECAUSE of their immigration problems, though they'll feed you a load of their liberal hippie-we-are-all-one talk to make you believe otherwise. You think you'd be paying that much if you didn't have illegals flooding your schools and hospitals and taking other social benefits? No. This is the most poorly run city I've ever seen. Live in Paris, pay those taxes, and actually RECEIVE real social benefits and be taken care of, instead of struggling to get by.... People who accept the way this city is run are saps.
Totally agree with you, and as a matter of fact, I was once in your shoe.

I moved to L.A. (I call smell-A) a long time ago to attend undergrad in the suburbs of L.A.

Initially, I like the city and thought I had to get adjusted to the lifestyle.

I later learned and caught on that people in L.A. are complete jerks who live to **** the living sh-t out of others for their pleasure.

I also find that rent in L.A. is very expensive in the rip-off range. It has to do with greed in this city.

I also could not stand the ubber politically correctness in this city. It's also mismanaged terribly with public schools giving "bilingual" education at the expense of californian tax payer's $$.

Although I've lived most of my life in Hawaii and in Seattle, WA, I am having a better life living in the midwest compared to what I've experienced back in L.A. I am assuming southerners are similar to midwestern people. People here are straightforward with what they want to say. There's not a lot of politically correct redtape/bullsh-t that you have to deal with here, and not a lot of "gangbangers" compared to L.A.
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Old 06-08-2010, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Mt Washington: NELA
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First off, I NEVER said every area has neighborly people. Before you go insulting people you can AT THE VERY LEAST read the post. Put words in your own mouth.

I have had non-English speaking neighbors with more class than you'll EVER have.

Have a nice trip.

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You are kidding yourself. I'm glad you've had a good experience, but your experience isn't what most people say. I've lived here for a LONG time and talked with many different people over the years and 9/10 people wouldn't agree with you. Many people don't speak English so they can't even talk with their neighbors. I'm not going to argue about this with you. If you are so naive that you think every area has neighborly people that's up to you.

There is a reason why Los Angeles is always ranked among the least friendliest cities in the US.
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Old 06-09-2010, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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First off, I NEVER said every area has neighborly people. Before you go insulting people you can AT THE VERY LEAST read the post. Put words in your own mouth.

I have had non-English speaking neighbors with more class than you'll EVER have.

Have a nice trip.
Why do you take what strangers say so seriously? I even said I'm glad you've had a good experience and you call me classless? Okay.... I'm sorry I offended you.

God bless.

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