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Old 06-09-2010, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Thanks for your response. I am curious (not trying to put you down) about your reasons for leaving. Just because I like it here doesn't mean I expect everyone else to. In fact, let me start with the things which even I see as negatives, and ask you to continue:
1) Traffic congestion
2) High taxes
3) High cost of housing
4) Dangerous neighborhoods in some areas
O.K., go for it! (and I'll probably respond with what I see as the positives).
I agree with all of the above plus these:

Too many liberals.
High cost of living.
I wouldn't want to raise a family here.
The public school system isn't good.
Too many illegals.
Weather is boring (not a reason I'm leaving, but I do find it very boring).
Not friendly.
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Old 06-09-2010, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I agree with all of the above plus these:

Too many liberals.
High cost of living.
I wouldn't want to raise a family here.
The public school system isn't good.
Too many illegals.
Weather is boring (not a reason I'm leaving, but I do find it very boring).
Not friendly.
Understood, and partial agreement with most. I would argue a bit about the school system; it is very spotty, with excellent schools and horrible schools, depending on where you are. So it is both bad and good. In addition, there are so many smaller cities which are part of the greater Los Angeles area and which have their own school systems, many of which are quite good. Examples: Santa Monica, Glendale, Alhambra, Pasadena, etc. (In Pasadena "spotty" like Los Angeles, with an astounding difference between the best and the worst schools). So raising a family would be great in some neighborhoods and bad in others.

As promised, the things I like the most are the world-class cultural opportunities: foreign films, authentic ethnic restaurants, the L.A. Philharmonic, the L.A. Master Chorale, world-class art musuems. (Just to quickly hit a few highlights).
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Old 06-09-2010, 02:34 PM
 
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If you are mega wealthy, than LA is great, but making anything less than 300K a year it sucks to live here. This state is so screwed up I would love to move, but good luck selling a house here, it is more like giving it away. The California dream is dead, Ca was great in the 70's but not now. I would never recommend anyone with a family to move here unless you have really deep pockets and a high tolerance for BS fees and taxes. The big problem is our state government has no clue what a budget even is, every time more money is needed, well just raise fees code for more taxes. I am upset about our school closing down, why becase the government irresponsability blew the budget, and now we have to pay for their screw up!, ya welcome to California, have fun wit that.

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Old 06-09-2010, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Default $300K a year??

That is a gross exaggeration of how much annual income it takes to live the good life in Los Angeles. Sure, both taxes and the cost of housing are relatively high here. But one can choose to avoid the costlier neighborhood - there are safe, pleasant areas that are more reasonable in which to buy or rent.
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Old 06-09-2010, 08:41 PM
 
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That is a gross exaggeration of how much annual income it takes to live the good life in Los Angeles. Sure, both taxes and the cost of housing are relatively high here. But one can choose to avoid the costlier neighborhood - there are safe, pleasant areas that are more reasonable in which to buy or rent.
Yeah the cheaper neighborhoods are further away from the jobs so you spend more time, money on gas and wear and tear on you're car, ok $300,000 might be high, but you still struggle a bit at 130K, it just costs a lot to live here and I would move if I could.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:42 PM
 
Location: los angeles/florida
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First off, I NEVER said every area has neighborly people. Before you go insulting people you can AT THE VERY LEAST read the post. Put words in your own mouth.

I have had non-English speaking neighbors with more class than you'll EVER have.

Have a nice trip.

Just had to jump in here - living in a country and not speaking/refusing to learn the national language is FAR from classy in my opinion. In fact, this is one of the things that irks me about L.A. the most. And I agree with whoever mentioned the fact that Angelinos pay taxes so that illegals can learn English at school, rather than at home. Annoying!
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:47 PM
 
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I also hate how illegals invade our country and we are supposed to learn Spanish and accomidate their language, no they won't assimulate, but want to turn this into Mexico, go to the San Fernando Vally it is turning into Mexico.
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I also hate how illegals invade our country and we are supposed to learn Spanish and accomidate their language, no they won't assimulate, but want to turn this into Mexico, go to the San Fernando Vally it is turning into Mexico.
A few points:

1. If you are going post a rant about illegal immigrants not "assimilating" into American culture by NOT learning english...you might try to IMPROVE your use of the english language. You'd make a more persuasive case. LOL!!

2. Get a dictionary or at least try using spell check.

3. Most immigrants (legal and illegal) know the path to progress involves learning english. Nobody is forcing you to learn spanish. I suggest you work on your english first.
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Old 06-10-2010, 04:42 AM
 
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I also hate how illegals invade our country and we are supposed to learn Spanish and accomidate their language, no they won't assimulate, but want to turn this into Mexico, go to the San Fernando Vally it is turning into Mexico.
Jezzus...

Did you just say illegals are INVADING OUR COUNTRY and making us LEARN SPANISH and TURNING the SFV INTO MEXICO?

Last I checked it was already Mexico when we invaded it in the first place. Oh yeah, they already spoke Spanish too.

What is WITH people forgetting basic U.S. history?? No wonder other countries mock us.

The Latin influence isn't going anywhere. Just like Hawaii won't lose it's Polynesian influence and Louisiana isn't losing it's French/Creole roots.

This is not a debate on illegal immigration and whether illegals are the downfall of the current economy or whatever, but the fact remains that
the U.S.A. was created by an influx of illegal immigrants from Europe (the British, the Spaniards, the French and the Dutch) as well as influenced by the slaves they imported from Africa.

The only original North Americans are the Native American Indians. And all of these influences aren't going anywhere. They shaped this great nation. It's a melting-pot. Deal with it.
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Old 06-10-2010, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Default As long as we're on correct English usage...

To SoCal35: Good point in your post, but I will go further and point out to you that the names of languages should be capitalized, as in English and Spanish.
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