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Old 06-06-2010, 11:28 AM
 
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Some of you probably know me. Or don't remember me. I frequent the LA forums. I love it. I love helping people out with where or when to move. But now I'm sorry to say that person is me. A long time ago, I was one of those googly-eyed naive teenagers desperate to move to LA and become a star. After several years of maturing and gaining a business sense of mind, I came to discover LA is not what I need. It's not a good place.

But now, I'm considering making one the most life-changing harsh decisions I've ever made. Right now, my family (immediate) family is in dire need of money. We barely make enough together to pay the rent every month. We're not in the best employing city on Earth. There's no jobs. There's no anything. I live in a small town in SW FL btw. We move around alot to find jobs. We barely make 10,000 a year. I'm getting ready to graduate high school. And I need a way to pull in a good quick salary so we don't have to suffer anymore.

And I was reconsidering becoming either an actor or part-time model. I'm not the best looking guy on Earth but I'm not exactly ugly either.
I believe I have potential. But my thing is, moving to LA or doing my thing in Miami means putting off college for awhile. I had major plans for college. I wanted to go into Business but college means staying for years to obtain a degree, finding the money to even attend, and the prospect of finding a job immediately after graduating is very low. Either way, both of my plans were a potential way to make a good yearly salary.

But I'm not so sure now. I promised myself I wouldn't be one of LA's "Lost Souls". The young 20-somethings that move to LA hoping to find fame and fortune and never find it or end up in the pornographic industry. I don't want to be one of them. I have high and moral standards that I have set forth for myself and I don't find the idea attractive or feasible to be waiting months or years hoping to win that one audition. I want something that will give me hope of actually finding model/acting work. I don't have money to get an agent. I don't even have a resume to build up. So does anyone think I'm way out of my league?
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Old 06-06-2010, 11:36 AM
 
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If there's anything, I have only one known connection to the Hollwyood industry and that is my adult cousin who is an upcoming music DJ or something who lives back and forth between Boston/Miami/LA and New York. He knows Pharell and has met Kanye West and the like. I really didn't think anything of it because I had lost my interest in the industry. I had thought ok, cool. Whatever. But do you think he could be my ticket? I don't even know him like that. We have never really talked or met. My mom knows him.

As for locations, I have family in Brooklyn so I have access to NYC. And I have family in Fort Lauderdale so I have quick access to Miami. I have family in California but from my Dad's side that I have never met. And they live in The Bay Area. I'm not trying to go there.

I don't know what to do. Please help!
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Old 06-06-2010, 11:37 AM
 
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Some of you probably know me. Or don't remember me. I frequent the LA forums. I love it. I love helping people out with where or when to move. But now I'm sorry to say that person is me. A long time ago, I was one of those googly-eyed naive teenagers desperate to move to LA and become a star. After several years of maturing and gaining a business sense of mind, I came to discover LA is not what I need. It's not a good place.

But now, I'm considering making one the most life-changing harsh decisions I've ever made. Right now, my family (immediate) family is in dire need of money. We barely make enough together to pay the rent every month. We're not in the best employing city on Earth. There's no jobs. There's no anything. I live in a small town in SW FL btw. We move around alot to find jobs. We barely make 10,000 a year. I'm getting ready to graduate high school. And I need a way to pull in a good quick salary so we don't have to suffer anymore.

And I was reconsidering becoming either an actor or part-time model. I'm not the best looking guy on Earth but I'm not exactly ugly either.
I believe I have potential. But my thing is, moving to LA or doing my thing in Miami means putting off college for awhile. I had major plans for college. I wanted to go into Business but college means staying for years to obtain a degree, finding the money to even attend, and the prospect of finding a job immediately after graduating is very low. Either way, both of my plans were a potential way to make a good yearly salary.

But I'm not so sure now. I promised myself I wouldn't be one of LA's "Lost Souls". The young 20-somethings that move to LA hoping to find fame and fortune and never find it or end up in the pornographic industry. I don't want to be one of them. I have high and moral standards that I have set forth for myself and I don't find the idea attractive or feasible to be waiting months or years hoping to win that one audition. I want something that will give me hope of actually finding model/acting work. I don't have money to get an agent. I don't even have a resume to build up. So does anyone think I'm way out of my league?
yes!!!
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Old 06-06-2010, 11:45 AM
 
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yes!!!

Um..Ok? I was considering college but I'm worried because college is going to take me at least 6 years to complete. I don't have 6 years or the money to do it. I don't have the grades to get a scholarship either. My family is in a serious bind and acting/model is the only self-respecting gig I know that I can make some quick cash to get a little something going.
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Old 06-06-2010, 11:58 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Some of you probably know me. Or don't remember me. I frequent the LA forums. I love it. I love helping people out with where or when to move. But now I'm sorry to say that person is me. A long time ago, I was one of those googly-eyed naive teenagers desperate to move to LA and become a star. After several years of maturing and gaining a business sense of mind, I came to discover LA is not what I need. It's not a good place.

But now, I'm considering making one the most life-changing harsh decisions I've ever made. Right now, my family (immediate) family is in dire need of money. We barely make enough together to pay the rent every month. We're not in the best employing city on Earth. There's no jobs. There's no anything. I live in a small town in SW FL btw. We move around alot to find jobs. We barely make 10,000 a year. I'm getting ready to graduate high school. And I need a way to pull in a good quick salary so we don't have to suffer anymore.

And I was reconsidering becoming either an actor or part-time model. I'm not the best looking guy on Earth but I'm not exactly ugly either.
I believe I have potential. But my thing is, moving to LA or doing my thing in Miami means putting off college for awhile. I had major plans for college. I wanted to go into Business but college means staying for years to obtain a degree, finding the money to even attend, and the prospect of finding a job immediately after graduating is very low. Either way, both of my plans were a potential way to make a good yearly salary.

But I'm not so sure now. I promised myself I wouldn't be one of LA's "Lost Souls". The young 20-somethings that move to LA hoping to find fame and fortune and never find it or end up in the pornographic industry. I don't want to be one of them. I have high and moral standards that I have set forth for myself and I don't find the idea attractive or feasible to be waiting months or years hoping to win that one audition. I want something that will give me hope of actually finding model/acting work. I don't have money to get an agent. I don't even have a resume to build up. So does anyone think I'm way out of my league?
I'm not going to sugar-coat this, but please don't take it personally.

As you probably know, there are tons of people going to Hollywood to try to make it in the movie/acting business. It's very competitive. If you don't have experience, don't have a resume, don't have an agent...then how will you expect to be competitive?

Yes, there is a chance that you'll go to LA and make it in acting - and you won't know until you try. But recognize that this plan is highly risky - it's like if your life plan is to make it into the NBA; your odds are quite small.

So you might want to look at your plan like this: if I go to LA and I can't find work in acting/modeling, then what will I do? What's the alternative? Will you be better off working menial/low-skilled jobs over there? There are many more jobs in LA, but without a college degree, I would argue that the kinds of non-acting/modeling jobs you'll be qualified for over there...will pretty much look like the kinds of jobs you're qualified for right now where you live. They're not going to give you a lot more money.

As far as college degrees go, yes, it can be challenging even with those. The main thing to recognize is that the discipline in which you focus your degree will make a huge difference as to what your employability and earnings potential will look like. Major in the proverbial "underwater basketweaving" major, and you'll have access to about the same kinds of jobs as you do now. Major in business finance, engineering, medical field-related stuff - and get good grades and internships - and chances are much greater for you. It all depends on the kinds of compromises you're willing to make.

Personally, I would say that your best bet toward stability over the long term is to get a college degree in an area with some real employment prospects. This is still going to be the single thing that opens the most doors for you. You don't have to major something you totally hate, but there are majors that can open up lots of other doors over time - for instance, you may be in some generic area of business for a few years when you finish school, but what about if you then converted that experience into a job in the LA area working with... media marketing or media production? Even if you weren't an actor, you could still be contributing to that world in an interesting way that gives you a real wage. And you'd never be able to knock on that door without first getting the degree and then getting some years of jobs experience. It's all about setting yourself up for success over the long run.

Good luck.
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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I'm not going to sugar-coat this, but please don't take it personally.

As you probably know, there are tons of people going to Hollywood to try to make it in the movie/acting business. It's very competitive. If you don't have experience, don't have a resume, don't have an agent...then how will you expect to be competitive?

Yes, there is a chance that you'll go to LA and make it in acting - and you won't know until you try. But recognize that this plan is highly risky - it's like if your life plan is to make it into the NBA; your odds are quite small.

So you might want to look at your plan like this: if I go to LA and I can't find work in acting/modeling, then what will I do? What's the alternative? Will you be better off working menial/low-skilled jobs over there? There are many more jobs in LA, but without a college degree, I would argue that the kinds of non-acting/modeling jobs you'll be qualified for over there...will pretty much look like the kinds of jobs you're qualified for right now where you live. They're not going to give you a lot more money.

As far as college degrees go, yes, it can be challenging even with those. The main thing to recognize is that the discipline in which you focus your degree will make a huge difference as to what your employability and earnings potential will look like. Major in the proverbial "underwater basketweaving" major, and you'll have access to about the same kinds of jobs as you do now. Major in business finance, engineering, medical field-related stuff - and get good grades and internships - and chances are much greater for you. It all depends on the kinds of compromises you're willing to make.

Personally, I would say that your best bet toward stability over the long term is to get a college degree in an area with some real employment prospects. This is still going to be the single thing that opens the most doors for you. You don't have to major something you totally hate, but there are majors that can open up lots of other doors over time - for instance, you may be in some generic area of business for a few years when you finish school, but what about if you then converted that experience into a job in the LA area working with... media marketing or media production? Even if you weren't an actor, you could still be contributing to that world in an interesting way that gives you a real wage. And you'd never be able to knock on that door without first getting the degree and then getting some years of jobs experience. It's all about setting yourself up for success over the long run.

Good luck.
I agree with you all the way. I didn't want to do this whole LA thing. It's extremely compeitive. I didn't want to waste my time. I'm smarter than that. But now the real world is getting to me. And what's real is that we are barely getting by. The whole college plan I had, I still want to do it, but it means struggling even further to save up enough money to stay. All of the third generation of my family is currently is college and their doing great but our immediate family is the only one with as many financial problems as this. My sister is working to get her masters but still has to work a 9-to-5. She will be finishing in 4 years. As much problems we have now, I don't see how we will be able to stay financially afloat without one of us getting a higher paying salary job. This where I'm at the crossroads.

Besides I don't think my hold off won't be very long. The most I'm willing to dedicate my time to acting/modeling is 1 year. If I don't get anything by then, I will consider it a waste and I'll move back and register for college.

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Old 06-06-2010, 12:18 PM
 
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I agree with you all the way. I didn't want to do this whole LA thing. It's extremely compeitive. I didn't want to waste my time. I'm smarter than that. But now the real world is getting to me. And what's real is that we are barely getting by. The whole college plan I had, I still want to do it, but it means struggling even further to save up enough money to stay. All of the third generation of my family is currently is college and their doing great but our immediate family is the only one with as many financial problems as this. My sister is working to get her masters but still has to work a 9-to-5. She will be finishing in 4 years. As much problems we have now, I don't see how we will be able to stay financially afloat without one of us getting a higher paying salary job. This where I'm at the crossroads.
Check out getting a CNA (certified nurse's assistant) certificate. It takes 6 weeks to complete. Then you'll likely get a job paying $24K in Florida. For a 6 week investment, you've more than doubled your annual income. Then you will have the money to save for college.
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:24 PM
 
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Check out getting a CNA (certified nurse's assistant) certificate. It takes 6 weeks to complete. Then you'll likely get a job paying $24K in Florida. For a 6 week investment, you've more than doubled your annual income. Then you will have the money to save for college.
I'm sorry. I'm not looking to become a nurse. My cousin does that. Maybe it is for some people. But it's not for me. I will not just work in anything. I want to do something that interest me and that I can succeed in. My family is in a bind but we're not on the brink of poverty. Just barely making enough to sustain normal living situations. I can't move around anymore. That is why I am reconsidering this wild idea in the first place.
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:30 PM
 
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I'm sorry. I'm not looking to become a nurse. My cousin does that. Maybe it is for some people. But it's not for me. I will not just work in anything. I want to do something that interest me and that I can succeed in.
Being a CNA doesn't mean you're going to be a nurse for life. It's merely a stepping stone to what you really want to do. Your original post said you are desperate for cash, your family only makes $10K a year. You said you want something that can make you earn money quick. I have given you an example of a quick training course that can land you a recession proof job in 6 weeks earning $24K with benefits.
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:44 PM
 
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Being a CNA doesn't mean you're going to be a nurse for life. It's merely a stepping stone to what you really want to do. Your original post said you are desperate for cash, your family only makes $10K a year. You said you want something that can make you earn money quick. I have given you an example of a quick training course that can land you a recession proof job in 6 weeks earning $24K with benefits.
I don't believe it's that simple. I mean, don't you have to have some specific qualifications or some type of high grade average to do that? And I said we barely make 10,000 a year. We live in a very low cost city in terms of living. That is the only way we are able to pay the rent every month. But it gets harder when there is no jobs. We move around ALOT. And that is what I am trying to prevent. I'm not going to get into something I can't do. Anything having to do with nursing, dental, hospitals, etc. I can't. Not only the difficulty, but I'm extremely sensitive. I don't like touching body organs and things like that. They make me nauseous. We're struggling but I'm not going to take just anything. I'm sorry. But thank you for your suggestion. I really appreciate the help I've been receiving from you guys.
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