Chick-Fil-A day is August 1 (crimes, live, kindergarten)
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OK, so you are now changing your argument. Well now that we are clear..
Since your argument #2 is that you advocate people to be "free", do you support marriage between an adult and a child? So if a 40 year old dude wants to marry a 12 year old little girl, and both parties want to get married, you are fine with that??... Good point
Well you've already have made two different arguments that were both illogical by your own previous statements. Want to try for third new argument on why Chick Fil A is against freedom?? LOL
Well you've already have made two different arguments that were both illogical by your own previous statements. Want to try for third new argument on why Chick Fil A is against freedom?? LOL
Chic-Fil-A's owners have the right to say whatever they want. That doesn't mean that their stance is right or even "logical". I just have a hard time believing that anybody's wedding night is going to be ruined by them imagining two dudes making out.
This is just a friendly reminder that Chick Fil A day is on Wednesday. I encourage everyone to show up and make this day a very positive one in defense of marriage.
Thank you for the reminder. We'll be at our local store in California
I'm going to show my support by going a few times this week. Went today and the place was packed. Cars were lined up at drivethrough; I saw about 15 cars in line.
Here is my thought: Gays want others to show tolerance to them. That is fine. But they also have to expect to show tolerance for opinions that differ from theirs. It's a two-way street. You can't ask for tolerance for your views, then refuse to tolerate someone else's views.
And if it's okay for a Chick-Fil-A not to be allowed to open because of the owner's religious or political views, then it is only fair that no business with an owner with any views that others disagree with should be allowed to open. Why is okay for owners who are liberal to state their views openly, but Chick-Fil-A owner isn't supposed to do that. What the heck?
Well you've already have made two different arguments that were both illogical by your own previous statements. Want to try for third new argument on why Chick Fil A is against freedom?? LOL
I won't even comment on the 40 year old and the 12 year old metaphor. OMG.
Marriage should be legal between two consenting adults. Nobody is asking for any more than that.
How is Chik Fil A fighting freedom? I'll tell you how. They give money to organizations that propose legislature that fights gay marriage. THat's how. In 2010 they gave almost 2 million dollars to these organizations.
Do you know how many people could be fed on 2 million? How many kids they could have helped? How many families? But hey as long as they feel they are sticking it to the queers, it's all good.
I don't know why Christians think they own marriage. They don't. Marriage is older than Christianity itself. Marriage goes back to the Pagans. Even before this country was "discovered" by Columbus, the Native Americans had their own marriage ceremonies. Marriage takes place all over the globe by people who not only aren't Christian but have never picked up a Bible.
Christians don't own marriage. Gay people aren't asking for church weddings. They are asking to marry period.
It's funny how people have made this out to be a matter of opinion like it's Team Edward/Team Jacob. I've read so many comments about how this is Chik Fil A's opinion.
NO it's not their opinon. It's their actions. They are actively fighting the rights of others.
Christians are fast to talk about the Constitution. Well there is this little thing in the Constitution called the Equal Rights Amendment. This says we are equal. All of us.
We live in a country where people can get married 5 times, they can go through the drive through in Vegas and be married by an Elvis impersonator, over half of marriages end in divorce. Don't tell me that gay people will hurt marriage. Us straight folk are doing a dandy job of that ourselves.
Besides if we let the Bible dictate who got married, the only people getting married would be people who were virgins on their wedding night. What funny is the people I know who are the most set against gay marriage is my cousin who is on her 3rd marriage and another dude who frequents strip clubs to watch strippers makes out. But gay men, OMG no!
The SAME types people who are convulsing over gay marriage were the ones in the 1800s who clutched their chest at the thought of women voting, going to college and being able to own property. They are the same types of people who shat their pants at the thought of a black person sitting where they wanted on a bus during the Civil Rights era. I really believe one day we will look back at this issue in the same way.
Liberty and justice for all.....not some.
Signed...A Christian
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Gays want others to show tolerance to them. That is fine. But they also have to expect to show tolerance for opinions that differ from theirs.
Do you realize that this doesn't make sense?
First of all, what you are saying to gay people is this: I'm going to give my money to support a business that turns around and gives that money to organizations that fight to stop you from having basic civil rights. AND you have to be tolerant of my opinion that I think you don't deserve basic civil rights.
Put another way....... "Hey gay people we hate you, we are going to deny you basic civil rights. But damn this is just our opinion! Why you gotta be haters?"
and they say irony is dead.
This is more than an opinion. Chik Fil A has made their feelings clear with thier actions. Are you telling me if there was an organization that gave their money to try and stop a church from being built you wouldn't boycott heck out of it? You would! Would you want that organization telling you that by boycotting them you weren't showing tolerance for their opinion? Would it even make sense?
The Dixie Chicks had an opinion 10 years ago. THAT was an opinion and we saw how that went down by the conservatives. To this day many radio stations won't play their music and many people won't buy their CDs. For one thing they said, they got a sh*t-storm that still goes on.
Chick Fil A goes a lot further than having an opinion.
Look at all of the other Christian companies nobody cares about In and Out burger, Hobby Lobby, etc.
If you think Chik Fil A is under fire because of an opinion, you aren't paying attention.
I just hope everyone against gay marriage were virgins on their wedding night and certainly not divorced. AFter all, if you are divorced and you re-marry, you are committing adultery every day you are with your new spouse.
It would really be nice to see Christians stop whipping out the Holy book when it suits their needs, especially their bigotry.
I should not get too angry. After all, I used to think like some of you. I was a gay hatin' fool. Then I did an in depth Bible study with a man from my church who knew more about the Bible than any pastor I ever met. He was a true Bible scholar. He was the one who showed me how the scripture about gay people isn't what people think it is.
First of all, homosexual is a 19th century word. There were no openly gay men at that time. Heck there are no openly gay men NOW in the middle east. Do you think there were gay men prancing around the Roman Empire holding hands 2000 years ago? Of course not.
What Jesus refers to by "men laying with men" is what we would know today as "prison sex" We know what happens in prison and these men in prison aren't gay. Well that is what was happening back then. Roman guards would bend over men in the street and sodomize them as an act of dominance. Men were leaving their families and going to the Roman baths with young boys and having orgies. THAT is what the scripture is talking about. How could Jesus address an issue of being gay when openly gay didn't exist?
He was addressing the Romans who walked around dominating everything around them were committing theses acts. But they were acts of hate, not love. You know, like rape. Read the scripture and it will all make sense.
This plus the fact that I believe with all my heart people are born gay was enough to make me realize that God doesn't want us to hate gay people. He made them like he made the rest of us.
I really wish pastors would read the scripture in its entirety to see what Jesus is talking about and how wrongly the Bible has been misinterpreted. It's very easy to see what the "men lying with men" words are referring to.
Last edited by TheLonelyGoatherd; 07-31-2012 at 12:09 AM..
I'm a gay man who grew up in the very town where Dan Cathy lives and CFA is based, and I find this whole thing ridiculous. The Cathys are as fine as people you'd ever meet, and CFA is a model company that treats its employees and customers very well and gives back enormously to the communities they serve. That's why comments like this by Chicago mayor Rahm Emmanuel are completely beyond the pale! The man should be recalled from office. I simply can't believe the majority of people in Chicago believe this garbage:
Chick-fil-A was told to stay out of Chicago by Rahm Emanuel who said, "Chick-fil-A's values are not Chicago values. They're not respectful of our residents, our neighbors and our family members. And if you're gonna be part of the Chicago community, you should reflect Chicago values."
First of all, what you are saying to gay people is this: I'm going to give my money to support a business that turns around and gives that money to organizations that fight to stop you from having basic civil rights. AND you have to be tolerant of my opinion that I think you don't deserve basic civil rights.
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It makes perfect sense. You think it's okay to deny Dan Cathy freedom of speech. Isn't that a basic right? Just because he disagrees with you doesn't mean he has no right to voice his opinion. And he was answering an interview question. What's he supposed to do, lie about his views when asked a question?
I should not get too angry. After all, I used to think like some of you. I was a gay hatin' fool.
You were never like me, then, because I have never hated gays. I don't think Dan Cathy hates gays, either. And for what it is worth, I have no problem with gay marriage. But I do think Dan Cathy has the right to state his beliefs just as gays state theirs.
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