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Old 03-14-2018, 10:25 AM
 
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A more apt comparison would be Lousiana and Acadia, which comprised the French speaking areas east of Quebec in the provinces of New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and the state of Maine. The primary city of Acadia is Moncton, NB.

Since this is the region from which southern Lousiana was settled, and it is also a region that became more Anglophone, interesting comparisons might be made.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acadia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moncton
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Old 03-14-2018, 10:54 PM
 
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As a Canadian Province, Quebec has a distinct and thriving film, theatre, and music scene.


A whole separate entertainment world, with movie stars, TV personalities, and authors. French language TV network, radio network, radio stations, daily newspapers, and of course all of the professional disciplines are conducted in French. If you want to practice as a MD in Quebec, you have to be fluent (speak read and write in French. ) Same for a lawyer or engineer.


I doubt that any of that exists ( in the French language ) in Louisiana .


French is one of the two Official Languages in Canada. It has equal status to English. The Federal Government is required by law to provide services in French where there is a demand for it. Most Federal Government agencies operate in a bilingual manner. French speakers are to be found at many locations in the Federal Civil Service. Example are the Canadian Border Services Agency, the Canadian Armed Forces, and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.


In Parliament, the debates and discussions in the House take place in both French and English, with simultaneous translation. The Speaker must be fluently bi-lingual in order to regulate the business in the chamber. It is also required that the Queen's representative in Canada be fluently bi-lingual. He/she is the head of State in Canada. The current Governor General is a former member of the Canadian aerospace program, a commercial pilot, and a triple degree holder.


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Actually, Louisiana has a thriving movie industry, with many movies being filmed here. Outside of CA, it is one of the top states where movies are filmed.
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Old 03-15-2018, 06:21 AM
 
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Great. But how many films are being made , or records produced , or how many radio stations in that state are operating in French...only ?


That was my point, that Quebec is a French speaking Province. Making a film in New Orleans that is aimed at the English speaking American population, to me, doesn't seem to be the same thing at all.


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Old 03-15-2018, 04:35 PM
 
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The two places couldn't be anymore different that is for sure.

Louisiana's French is in it's history. You'll see it in varying amounts on the highway and on road signs. You'll see some buildings and plaques. Some statues. What you'll see is some French History. You might even meet the occasional coon ass that claims to speak french. However for the most part french is a somewhat of a historic thing the folks living there trot out and over state. Outside of the occasional band at Prejeuns or sign you wouldn't know or care the area was french because there is virtually nothing in the day to day life the resembles french.

Quebec is living, breathing french heritage. They not only have the history, they live and speak it every single day.

Not only that, in general, Quebec is a cleaner, nicer area. Much less crime and entirely different demographics.
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Old 03-15-2018, 06:13 PM
 
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Know it all is off by a hundred years or so...and Napoleon wasn't even born when the Acadians were exiled in the 1740s (aka the Grand d'Arrangement)

Similarities/Differences:

Both Acadia and Quebec were founded by the French, but the Acadians were much more isolated from the rest of the French. They were also in more frequent contact with the British because of their close proximity to the New England colonies.

When the French Crown allowed settlement of North America, one requirement was that any emigrees had to be baptized, practicing Catholics. A group of the emigrees, such as Isaac Bedard, were actually Calvinists, but they wanted out of France so much that they were rebaptized in the Catholic Church and practised that faith for the rest of their lives. At the same time, the Melancon/Melanson family of Acadia was actually an interesting story in a Huguenot father named LaVerdure who escaped persecution in France and settled in Britain. He married Priscilla Melanson (probably a Scot, but possibly English...the jury remains out). Then his sons served in the British military and were sent to the New England colonies. They met and married young women from Acadia and reverted to the Catholic faith from which their father had run away. They are the largest single Acadian family and nearly all Cajuns descend from these brothers.

Acadian emigration from France ended pretty early. They weren't adding new settlers by the end of the 1600s. The villages remained small and isolated. Conversely, the Crown continued trying to populate the Quebec colony for several decades more. But the Crown was losing patience with the expensive colonies, especially after they were forced to import women (the filles du roi) to keep the men from killing each other.

One major difference between the Quebecois and the Acadians is that the Quebecois had more contact with France and had a more modern dialect of the language. After the Grand D'Arrangement, many Acadians were returned to France and couldn't even communicate with the French because their dialect was so old and outdated.

Many Acadians were taken as slaves by the British and were sent to New England and the Atlantic colonies. They fared better than the African slaves, but they were still slaves in a land where people spoke a foreign language.

The Quebecois were allowed to retain their French language after the British took over their colony. They were also never force into any kind of servitude. When they crossed into the American colonies and states, they were often quite welcomed.

The route for many of the Acadians to make their way out of British lands was often very difficult. Some escaped their captivity in the American colonies and made their way into the Caribbean colonies of Spain and France (the King of Spain was the nephew of the King of France and gave the Acadians refuge). Many think the Acadians just escaped directly to New Orleans, but the truth is much more complicated. Some went all the way back to Europe before being sent back, then finding their way south in order to go west.

Another interesting group for you to research is the Acadians who settled on the Ile St-Pierre and Miquelon. To this day it's the only French colony in North America.

The Cajuns retained remnants of their language after relocating to Louisiana. The Quebecois who resettled in New England adopted the American dialect and lost their Quebecois dialect.

True remarks but you are failing to realize that when the Acadians went into Louisiana, there was already a sizable French population in Louisiana. New Orleans was a thriving city at that point and there were French settlements dating back to the early 1700's in Louisiana even to northern Louisiana (Natchitoches, LA is older than New Orleans actually).

The French in New Orleans were called Creoles as they were a mixture of French and some of the African American slaves, which the Frenchmen would keep as mistresses and their kids were freeman of color but still very French in customs and mannerisms.

The New Orleanians didn't allow the Cajuns to settle around New Orleans, instead they forced them to the area around Breaux Bridge. From there they fanned out. However, the government would give them livestock, salt pork, a bag of rice, and other staples to help them survive until they could get some crops going.
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Old 03-16-2018, 08:32 AM
 
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Lizap.


Great. But how many films are being made , or records produced , or how many radio stations in that state are operating in French...only ?


That was my point, that Quebec is a French speaking Province. Making a film in New Orleans that is aimed at the English speaking American population, to me, doesn't seem to be the same thing at all.


XXX.
As you correctly pointed out, Quebec has its own full-fledged, self-contained, domestic "national" entertainment industry that operates in French and constitutes the local mainstream here. Covering everything from porn all the way up to classical music.
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Old 03-16-2018, 07:45 PM
 
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Covering everything from porn all the way up to ...
You're going to have to source that
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Old 03-16-2018, 08:45 PM
 
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You're going to have to source that
Nice try
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Old 03-16-2018, 11:55 PM
 
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Nice try
Shucks!
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Old 03-26-2018, 03:54 AM
 
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You're going to have to source that
How about this? Que. school board fires porn star secretary | CBC News - A school secretary had a sordid past as a star of those kinds of films. A kid found out and she got canned.

Not surprising what her next career was Fired Quebec school secretary starts porn company - Montreal - CBC News
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