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Well it just goes to show there's truth to the old saying: Beware of the power of dumb people in large groups And as for ACA, I've seen firsthand how well it's working in the trenches. While it's not perfect, I can tell you firsthand the Affordable Care Act has really helped people who really needed it. The number one reason for bankruptcy among middle-class folks is a catastrophic health crises that taps everything they have to (try and) get care. I've seen it many, many, many times and have advised folks on everything from creating trusts to managing elder assets. It's a crime how good people get crushed by devastating health costs. And many of these folks were hard-working, responsible folks too. Not the stereotype that some would have you believe. After they get diagnosed, their health insurance skyrockets to unmanageable levels come renewal and it sucks to see them go through such stresses.
I look at it this way: if our nation is going to waste trillions of dollars in the middle-east and send some of our best and brightest in harm's way and squander resources on nations that won't stick together for their own best-interests; then we might as well direct our political leadership to start wasting a few trillion on silly things like: healthcare, higher education and infrastructure here at home. That's a waste I'm pretty sure we all could benefit from.
This past election was all about driving fear and instead of saying "we'll work to make this better"...oh no, we're going to "repeal everything and replace it"...uh...like they couldn't do that back a few years ago?
Nope neo-conservativism has made moderate folks appear as liberal by comparison. It's a shame too because if we thought congress was stagnant last go 'round... well to borrow from Bachman Turner Overdrive: you ain't seen nuthin' yet!
Well it just goes to show there's truth to the old saying: Beware of the power of dumb people in large groups And as for ACA, I've seen firsthand how well it's working in the trenches. While it's not perfect, I can tell you firsthand the Affordable Care Act has really helped people who really needed it. The number one reason for bankruptcy among middle-class folks is a catastrophic health crises that taps everything they have to (try and) get care. I've seen it many, many, many times and have advised folks on everything from creating trusts to managing elder assets. It's a crime how good people get crushed by devastating health costs. And many of these folks were hard-working, responsible folks too. Not the stereotype that some would have you believe. After they get diagnosed, their health insurance skyrockets to unmanageable levels come renewal and it sucks to see them go through such stresses.
I look at it this way: if our nation is going to waste trillions of dollars in the middle-east and send some of our best and brightest in harm's way and squander resources on nations that won't stick together for their own best-interests; then we might as well direct our political leadership to start wasting a few trillion on silly things like: healthcare, higher education and infrastructure here at home. That's a waste I'm pretty sure we all could benefit from.
This past election was all about driving fear and instead of saying "we'll work to make this better"...oh no, we're going to "repeal everything and replace it"...uh...like they couldn't do that back a few years ago?
Nope neo-conservativism has made moderate folks appear as liberal by comparison. It's a shame too because if we thought congress was stagnant last go 'round... well to borrow from Bachman Turner Overdrive: you ain't seen nuthin' yet!
I'll make this succinct. The past election was about Americans like me that have had it with socialist BS tearing apart our country and our values.
Promising free stuff to a segment of society in return for their vote is a recipe for disaster.
It hasn't worked in Spain, it hasn't worked in the Netherlands, it hasn't worked anywhere.
Forcing the productive to pay for those determined to play the system only lasts so long.
Spare me the "I hate the poor or sick" tirades. Since the beginning of time all noble civilizations have cared for the truly needy. But cramming a poorly thought-out health care scheme down the throats of Americans is leaving a bad taste in our mouths, and requires either repeal or a conversation about who is entitled to what in this country.
Just sayin.
Get ready for more budget deficits, rich people getting richer, and nothing positive happening. Maintain the status quo of "At least we're not Mississippi!"
Stagnation is never good.
Another reason why me and other youth are moving, or considering moving away (again) from this state.
I feel you Annie trust me I do. This state is so backwood in its thinking process. Landrieu was the senator thru the Clinton and Bush eras and now all of a sudden with this President people wanted her out. Hmmm.
Moving away from Louisiana would be better right now.
SWLA is adding jobs, however, I have no interest in blue collar labor. And I need progress in my life, none of which is happening in Louisiana, let alone SWLA. By progress I mean change. I'm not happy with more oil jobs, crumbling roads, hunting, etc. It's the same ol stuff with this place.
I'm proud of her vote for the ACA. Listening to media leaves you blind. The bill is actually popular with most of the country, and yes she would have voted for it because I wouldn't have cast my vote for her if she hadn't.
These midterms leave very little room for the GOP to win in 2016 though. After 2 more years of do-nothing congress the public will likely vote for another dem. Let's not forget how Louisiana is in the red and the Bush administration put us in the red with 2 wars and a broken tax system.
Dude, give it up. America was lied to, and the populace is finally admitting it. The recent elections are proof.
Quit listening to those that revel in anger.
Stay in New Orleans. Get a job at a sandwich shop. Learn how to make great sandwiches and manage a shop.
Then open your own shop on Peters or Decatur. Become independant.
You're blessed to be in New Orleans. Take advantage of it!
Being lied to...Oh boy....where was the outrage when we discovered our war strategy was nonsense? Democratization of Iraq or any other foreign nation is nonsense. I seem to recall 3 Army Generals having to take "early retirement" because they wouldn't tell our leaders what they wanted to hear. And some 13 plus years later lookie at Iraq and other places. What a waste.
So yeah... I guess we all get lied to at some point. But as long as it's packaged like a John Wayne movie we're not going to fuss too much, unless of course your family gets impacted.
People have short memories: Ronald Reagan's Social Security Act of 1983 laid the foundation for the very raiding of the trust fund that people blame the current administration for. The trust fund has been raided by successive presidents to shore up tax cuts and fight wars. Our interventionist policies have cost more than they are worth. And speaking of domestic programs, while there are many who "game the system"... keep in mind that there are much more who don't and need the lifeline. I've seen people go from being in the green to being in the red in a short period of time due to failing health. And until you have seen it or have it happen to yourself, you have no idea of what being sick in America is like until you wind up losing your health, home and insurance. Sure people don't die in the streets as in poor countries... they conveniently die out of sight... in their foreclosed home or apartment or warehoused with minimal care in hospice.
Like I said, I'd rather have our country waste trillions on American domestic programs than on some place overseas, having our military getting killed or permanently maimed and squandering resources. It is a zero-sum game that can't be won.
Being lied to...Oh boy....where was the outrage when we discovered our war strategy was nonsense? Democratization of Iraq or any other foreign nation is nonsense. I seem to recall 3 Army Generals having to take "early retirement" because they wouldn't tell our leaders what they wanted to hear. And some 13 plus years later lookie at Iraq and other places. What a waste.
So yeah... I guess we all get lied to at some point. But as long as it's packaged like a John Wayne movie we're not going to fuss too much, unless of course your family gets impacted.
People have short memories: Ronald Reagan's Social Security Act of 1983 laid the foundation for the very raiding of the trust fund that people blame the current administration for. The trust fund has been raided by successive presidents to shore up tax cuts and fight wars. Our interventionist policies have cost more than they are worth. And speaking of domestic programs, while there are many who "game the system"... keep in mind that there are much more who don't and need the lifeline. I've seen people go from being in the green to being in the red in a short period of time due to failing health. And until you have seen it or have it happen to yourself, you have no idea of what being sick in America is like until you wind up losing your health, home and insurance. Sure people don't die in the streets as in poor countries... they conveniently die out of sight... in their foreclosed home or apartment or warehoused with minimal care in hospice.
Like I said, I'd rather have our country waste trillions on American domestic programs than on some place overseas, having our military getting killed or permanently maimed and squandering resources. It is a zero-sum game that can't be won.
...and then someone made sense. You have a knack for that. [Can't "rep" you again]
I'm proud of her vote for the ACA. Listening to media leaves you blind. The bill is actually popular with most of the country, and yes she would have voted for it because I wouldn't have cast my vote for her if she hadn't.
These midterms leave very little room for the GOP to win in 2016 though. After 2 more years of do-nothing congress the public will likely vote for another dem. Let's not forget how Louisiana is in the red and the Bush administration put us in the red with 2 wars and a broken tax system.
Far from it. Actually, all it takes is a visit to realclearpolitics.com to see how popular the health care law is; they compile regular national polling tracking approval of the health care law. It has NEVER been popular nationwide. It's funny how people like to make things up.
Actually, the midterms leave considerable room for the GOP to win in 2016 (man, are you intentionally spewing ill-calculated and supported remarks in this forum?). The GOP won 9 seats, giving them 54 seats going into the next Congress and more than enough cushion. Let's take this step by step:
1) The most embattled GOP Senate incumbents in 2016 are Ron Johnson in Wisconsin, Kirk in Illinois, and Toomey in Pennsylvania. Of these incumbents, only Johnson faces a real chance of losing; no credible Democrat is threatening Kirk in Illinois (and Michelle Obama's position that she will not run for that seat pretty much ensures that this will be the case) and Toomey has been conservative enough to keep his base, while moderate enough (think support for background checks) to make it tough for a Democrat beat. But, assuming a great night for Democrats, that's a pickup of only 3, which would leave the GOP with a majority of 1. And this doesn't even get into the fact that Harry Reid is toast if popular GOP Governor Brian Sandoval, who just won reelection with over 70% of the vote, runs against him as is expected. So, in reality, even in the Democrat's best expected circumstances, the GOP would likely have a majority of 2.
Other Republicans in states that Obama won who are up for reelection in 2016 represent the states of Ohio, New Hampshire, and Florida. Still, even with those seats, no one is seriously claiming that the incumbents are in any danger of being reelected.
I'd agree with your assessment of things if the GOP won a bar majority of 1 or 2 seats. But that's not the case here.
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Dude, give it up. America was lied to, and the populace is finally admitting it. The recent elections are proof.
Quit listening to those that revel in anger.
Stay in New Orleans. Get a job at a sandwich shop. Learn how to make great sandwiches and manage a shop.
Then open your own shop on Peters or Decatur. Become independant.
You're blessed to be in New Orleans. Take advantage of it!
First of, we are always lied to. Nothing to do with party lines.
Second, anger is an emotion as honest as others. There's a reason people are angry.
Third, I'm not in New Orleans and I work for FedEx. I'm not making sandwiches.
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Originally Posted by BeenThereDunThat
Being lied to...Oh boy....where was the outrage when we discovered our war strategy was nonsense? Democratization of Iraq or any other foreign nation is nonsense. I seem to recall 3 Army Generals having to take "early retirement" because they wouldn't tell our leaders what they wanted to hear. And some 13 plus years later lookie at Iraq and other places. What a waste.
So yeah... I guess we all get lied to at some point. But as long as it's packaged like a John Wayne movie we're not going to fuss too much, unless of course your family gets impacted.
People have short memories: Ronald Reagan's Social Security Act of 1983 laid the foundation for the very raiding of the trust fund that people blame the current administration for. The trust fund has been raided by successive presidents to shore up tax cuts and fight wars. Our interventionist policies have cost more than they are worth. And speaking of domestic programs, while there are many who "game the system"... keep in mind that there are much more who don't and need the lifeline. I've seen people go from being in the green to being in the red in a short period of time due to failing health. And until you have seen it or have it happen to yourself, you have no idea of what being sick in America is like until you wind up losing your health, home and insurance. Sure people don't die in the streets as in poor countries... they conveniently die out of sight... in their foreclosed home or apartment or warehoused with minimal care in hospice.
Like I said, I'd rather have our country waste trillions on American domestic programs than on some place overseas, having our military getting killed or permanently maimed and squandering resources. It is a zero-sum game that can't be won.
....you must be an Obama butt-kissing communist!! (I can't rep you again)
First of, we are always lied to. Nothing to do with party lines.
Second, anger is an emotion as honest as others. There's a reason people are angry.
Third, I'm not in New Orleans and I work for FedEx. I'm not making sandwiches.
....you must be an Obama butt-kissing communist!! (I can't rep you again)
OK then, stay angry. It will make you a joy to be around. And the sandwich shop was a metaphor.
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I'll make this succinct. The past election was about Americans like me that have had it with socialist BS tearing apart our country and our values.
Promising free stuff to a segment of society in return for their vote is a recipe for disaster.
It hasn't worked in Spain, it hasn't worked in the Netherlands, it hasn't worked anywhere.
Forcing the productive to pay for those determined to play the system only lasts so long.
Spare me the "I hate the poor or sick" tirades. Since the beginning of time all noble civilizations have cared for the truly needy. But cramming a poorly thought-out health care scheme down the throats of Americans is leaving a bad taste in our mouths, and requires either repeal or a conversation about who is entitled to what in this country.
Just sayin.
Do you know what a socialist economy, or better yet country even looks like?
I wasnt gonna do this but Im going to need you to provide evidence of the claims you stated in this post please......BEENTHEREDUNTHAT was all too correct in quoting "Beware of the power of Dumb people in large groups"....
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And as for ACA, I've seen firsthand how well it's working in the trenches. While it's not perfect, I can tell you firsthand the Affordable Care Act has really helped people who really needed it. The number one reason for bankruptcy among middle-class folks is a catastrophic health crises that taps everything they have to (try and) get care. I've seen it many, many, many times and have advised folks on everything from creating trusts to managing elder assets. It's a crime how good people get crushed by devastating health costs. And many of these folks were hard-working, responsible folks too. Not the stereotype that some would have you believe. After they get diagnosed, their health insurance skyrockets to unmanageable levels come renewal and it sucks to see them go through such stresses.
