Walkable, soulful, affordable parts of Louisville (Bardstown, Mentor: apartment, lofts, credit)

[damitajo]

Originally Posted by stx12499

Yes, it is clear trolling. I have a negative opinion of KY, but a positive opinion of most of Louisville, and I think for many people, it is a great place because you can actually utilize the entire city, and it is cheap and family friendly. Oh, and you get more time and money to travel to nearby places you enjoy. I grew up in Chicago, yet, it was while living in Louisville that I had a chance to fly to Chicago and visit many of the museums and neighborhoods I had never seen before because it is so big with so much traffic...you just end up doing the same stuff in the same familiar locales when you actually live in the city.

Also, as a dissenter, kytoaz does a good job of pointing out positives and negatives of a place. I think the real eyesores on Louisville are parts of Dixie and Preston Highway, not to mention much of the west side. But then again, every city has its version of those locales

Well, she's new to Louisville and it's only natural that she can't provide a nuanced view of the city. Although her post did have just a tiny, little bit of snark and might have been better without the term "white bread," it's her opinion and only another data point to add to the thousands already on here. Moving from a large city to Louisville is not a complete walk in the park; her initial impression is completely normal for someone that has lived in "soulful" neighborhoods in large cities. Hopefully with time, she'll grow to love Louisville as much as you do.

I feel like I started posting on here on the wrong foot and it was not my intention to be sarcastic at all. Please pardon any forwardness on my part. Thank you.

[kytoaz]

Originally Posted by damitajo

Well, she's new to Louisville and it's only natural that she can't provide a nuanced view of the city. Although her post did have just a tiny, little bit of snark and might have been better without the term "white bread," it's her opinion and only another data point to add to the thousands already on here. Moving from a large city to Louisville is not a complete walk in the park; her initial impression is completely normal for someone that has lived in "soulful" neighborhoods in large cities. Hopefully with time, she'll grow to love Louisville as much as you do.

I feel like I started posting on here on the wrong foot and it was not my intention to be sarcastic at all. Please pardon any forwardness on my part. Thank you.

I didn't take you that way at all. it's cool.

[CraigCreek]

Please, let's not diss Little Rock while praising Louisville. Both cities have come a LONG way in recent years, and LR has traveled that way far more rapidly than has Louisville. Check out the downtown area along the riverfront, the public library, the Old State Capitol, the Clinton Library, and the Territorial Restoration (whose new name eludes me - Arkansas State History Museum, perhaps??). Take a look at Pulaski Heights as well - quirky shops, cool and diverse restaurants, very up-and-coming vibe. The MacArthur Park area is also full of character. For a smallish city, Little Rock has a great deal to offer.

For a somewhat larger city, so does Louisville.

It's not necessary to put dpwn other cities in order to defend and/or praise another. It's okay to point out weaknesses or deficiencies, of course, but let's try to do so with adequate, up-to-date knowledge rather than with preconceived notions, very brief impressions, or old stereotypes.

[The Dissenter]

Originally Posted by damitajo

I am moving to Louisville shortly (this is actually my first post ever). I have been doing lots of quiet reading and it appears that the closest thing to walk-able city-living in Louisville is the Highlands.

Unfortunately, I am not particularly fond of the converted old buildings in the Highlands (totally out-of-the-question for me). Thus, I have given-up on finding anything remotely similar to the urban cities I have lived in. I'll just make sure to budget lots of money for weekend travel!

PS - Why do people also interpret negative opinions as uncivil? The OP hates Kentucky and considers some neighborhoods "white bread and bland"; there is nothing uncivil or wrong about that opinion.

One thing to have a negative opinion of a city. Another to slam the city when you haven't even arrived yet. That approach never ends well.

As i said, not a fan of ky or coal especially, but I am a fan of being polite. the fact that you automatically think that every person in louisville is a pro-coal right winger says a lot about you. If cleveland is so great (laughs) I suggest you stay there.

I'm not even into being polite but a big fan of not starting trouble when I need advice.

[Peter1948]

Originally Posted by CraigCreek

Please, let's not diss Little Rock while praising Louisville. Both cities have come a LONG way in recent years, and LR has traveled that way far more rapidly than has Louisville. Check out the downtown area along the riverfront, the public library, the Old State Capitol, the Clinton Library, and the Territorial Restoration (whose new name eludes me - Arkansas State History Museum, perhaps??). Take a look at Pulaski Heights as well - quirky shops, cool and diverse restaurants, very up-and-coming vibe. The MacArthur Park area is also full of character. For a smallish city, Little Rock has a great deal to offer.

For a somewhat larger city, so does Louisville.

It's not necessary to put dpwn other cities in order to defend and/or praise another. It's okay to point out weaknesses or deficiencies, of course, but let's try to do so with adequate, up-to-date knowledge rather than with preconceived notions, very brief impressions, or old stereotypes.

This thread is probably going to get closed because it was started with flaming intents. That said, LR did have some nice parts especially the trolleys and the downtown riverfront and market, along with the Clinton Library. I did drive throughout most of the city and left with the impression that it was nice, but not my cup of tea. I feel like Louisville is one of the better cities in the 1-2 million range. I do not feel the same of LR in the under 1 million metro crowd. In the southeast, I much prefer Knoxville, Asheville, Lexington and Charleston, and even some much smaller metros such as Athens or Savannah. In the Midwest, Madison, WI is a great example of a similar sized metro area to LR that has a lot more hip, progressive vibe.

That said, I did find LR quite quaint and the locals friendly. The things I do not like about Louisville which are some of its "southern" qualities, I found to be much more prominent in LR, to its detriment.

[Peter1948]

Originally Posted by damitajo

Well, she's new to Louisville and it's only natural that she can't provide a nuanced view of the city. Although her post did have just a tiny, little bit of snark and might have been better without the term "white bread," it's her opinion and only another data point to add to the thousands already on here. Moving from a large city to Louisville is not a complete walk in the park; her initial impression is completely normal for someone that has lived in "soulful" neighborhoods in large cities. Hopefully with time, she'll grow to love Louisville as much as you do.

I feel like I started posting on here on the wrong foot and it was not my intention to be sarcastic at all. Please pardon any forwardness on my part. Thank you.

Welcome to the forum. I didn't really take you that way either, but the OP, definitely. Pluses and minuses are warranted and welcome here, but if you are going to dish it, you better be able to take it!

[kytoaz]

Originally Posted by CraigCreek

Please, let's not diss Little Rock while praising Louisville. Both cities have come a LONG way in recent years, and LR has traveled that way far more rapidly than has Louisville. Check out the downtown area along the riverfront, the public library, the Old State Capitol, the Clinton Library, and the Territorial Restoration (whose new name eludes me - Arkansas State History Museum, perhaps??). Take a look at Pulaski Heights as well - quirky shops, cool and diverse restaurants, very up-and-coming vibe. The MacArthur Park area is also full of character. For a smallish city, Little Rock has a great deal to offer.

For a somewhat larger city, so does Louisville.

It's not necessary to put dpwn other cities in order to defend and/or praise another. It's okay to point out weaknesses or deficiencies, of course, but let's try to do so with adequate, up-to-date knowledge rather than with preconceived notions, very brief impressions, or old stereotypes.

I can still make fun of cleveland, right?

[Peter1948]

Originally Posted by kytoaz

I can still make fun of cleveland, right?

Cleveland is def a dying town, but it sure has some great urban architecture and great culture. I am not sure if the new casino will help or hurt its downtown. We shall see. Some things there like the West Side Market and some of the vestiges of the immigrant neighborhoods are still very cool.

For a metro area of 2 million, however, it sucks, and so does the weather, crime, and the way the place is pretty much hollowed out. Combined, it probably has as much cool, hip, artistic, and progressive stuff as Louisville, yet, it is mostly inaccessible. Try going to an art gallery or cafe in Lakewood, on the west side, then driving to eat at a restaurant in Little Italy, then driving up to University Circle to hit up a pub at night. You may be in for 2 hours of driving there!

However, I do see the potential for it to make a great come back sort of like Pittsburgh has done. It def has a few world class institutions from its heyday, including the Symphony Orchestra and the Art Museum.

[Orgetorix]

Originally Posted by damitajo

PS - Why do people also interpret negative opinions as uncivil? The OP hates Kentucky and considers some neighborhoods "white bread and bland"; there is nothing uncivil or wrong about that opinion.

It's a bit like saying, "Hey, I hate every member of your family I've met so far; they're all backwards and boring. Got any more interesting cousins I could meet?"

[Crazee Cat Lady]

Lol, yes that is exactly what it is like.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to throw several jabs and insults around
towards people, then asking that person/people for help, isn't going to get you very far.