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Old 07-30-2013, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, KY
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And yes, the added cost of that tunnel (let alone the other problems it causes) compared to what it's saving makes it the dumbest part of this project. All so they didn't have to cut off a small wooded corner of a large property on which sits a recently designated historic home of someone most people in this city had never even heard of.
Don't forget that the state of Kentucky actually purchased in that " Historic" property last year and prior to that the information about the landscaping that had been used to get the historic designation had been proven false!

Here's the website for the bridges project where everyone can get some more information about it: The Ohio River Bridges Downtown Crossing
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Old 07-31-2013, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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Agreed on all points.


I'm no liberal; in fact, kinda conservative. However, this is one truly "for the common good" project for which I'd be willing to dole a little more. According to the feds, there are $7.5 trillion (in current dollars) of transportation infrastructure projects that need to be completed by 2030--only 16.5 years away. I gladly pay tolls in California to go over the Dumbarton, San Mateo, Bay, or Golden Gate Bridge, the maintenance and retrofitting wouldn't pay for themselves otherwise.

Sooo...when I'm in Louisville starting in 2018 or whenever this bridge opens, I'll gladly pay the toll.
I would rather buy this:
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Old 08-01-2013, 08:02 PM
 
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As a resident of Chicago, I can testify to tolls that never die. The toll roads here were supposed to be paid off in the 70's and become free, but somehow there is always more that needs to be done. A hundred years from now they'll still be toll roads.
And for Kentucky to pick Walsh Construction, of all companies to do the work. What were you all thinking? Trying to support the mob by picking a Chicago company?
Well, I have in fact seen at least one toll road paid off, and the toll structures abandoned. It's the only one I remember, but I was pretty young then.
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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Well, I have in fact seen at least one toll road paid off, and the toll structures abandoned. It's the only one I remember, but I was pretty young then.
If I may without sounding other than informative, the entire Kentucky Parkway system (Kentucky Turnpike, Western KY, Pennyrile, Green River, Audubon, Purchase, Bluegrass, Mountain, Daniel Boone, & Cumberland are all originally toll roads which cared 20-30 year tolls.

Before my lifetime, I believe the bridges at Owensboro, Calhoun, the Clark in Louisville, and others were built as toll bridges.

Most other states, in fairness to those opposed, somehow managed to change the construction bond paying tolls into lifetime maintenance tolls.
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:22 PM
 
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Im glad for the tolls. I think a lot more roads should be toll.
The road system is a MASSIVE budget sucker, both state and fed.
Any annual budget meeting in any county usually entails raiding another
more worthy treasure chest to make up for road maintenance shortfalls.
Why shouldnt the people using the bridge have to pay for it?
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Fairfield, OH formerly S**tcago, IL
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Is the I-64 bridge near New Albany going to remain free? That is what I am reading into the Ohio River Project web site. If I relocate to the area for work I want to live in Indiana and commute.
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Old 08-03-2013, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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Is the I-64 bridge near New Albany going to remain free? That is what I am reading into the Ohio River Project web site. If I relocate to the area for work I want to live in Indiana and commute.
I understand that decision has been bandied back and forth at least 1000 times by those who will decide.
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Old 08-04-2013, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, KY
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Im glad for the tolls. I think a lot more roads should be toll. The road system is a MASSIVE budget sucker, both state and fed. Any annual budget meeting in any county usually entails raiding another more worthy treasure chest to make Up for road maintenance shortfalls.
Why shouldnt the people using the bridge have to pay for it?
The highway system isn't as much of a budget sucker as public transportation is! Use and gasoline taxes are supposed to be solely used to pay for roads and their maintenance, but on many occasions those funds have been used for mass transit or other uses. If the funds designated for highways were solely used for them there wouldn't be a problem.

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Is the I-64 bridge near New Albany going to remain free? That is what I am reading into the Ohio River Project web site. If I relocate to the area for work I want to live in Indiana and commute.
At the present time, the plans are for it to remain toll-free. There is even a question whether the existing Kennedy Bridge can be tolled, according to federal regulations.
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:15 PM
 
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If any of y'all been to Florida, they have numerous of toll roads and the small costs it takes to pass pays for the upkeep and other things when you drive on them.
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Old 08-05-2013, 04:11 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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My understanding is it would not make sense to only toll the Kennedy, New Downtown, and East End Bridges because then many people would take the 2 remaining free bridges and mess traffic patterns up. Tolls are basically all or none in this situation
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