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Old 10-25-2015, 09:34 PM
 
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I'm stuck between two cities! Louisville KY and Kansas City MO. I've never been to either but have done a ton of research on so many cities and narrowed it down to these two. I would love to get an idea what the locals think or people who have been there. These are what I'm looking for in a city:

1. Good transportation (Bus, Lightrail, etc..)
2. Lots of great unique coffee shops
3. Lots of natural health food stores like Whole Foods, Trader Joes, Sprouts, Farmers Markets
4. Friendly people in their 20s
5. Music and hippy vibe
6. Great outdoors! (I've read the Louisville definitely beats Kansas City in this department but would like to hear from you what you all think!)

Thank you!
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Old 10-25-2015, 10:26 PM
 
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1. Louisville doesn't have any lightrail. Idk much about KCMO, but I'm assuming their bus system isn't any better. It depends on where you live and work. Downtown and Old Louisville have pretty good bus access. Buses go down all the major streets like Shelbyville, Bardstown, 4th, Frankfort, Eastern Parkway, etc.

2. Again, idk much about KCMO, but I have to say Louisville has some great local coffee shops! I'm from LA, lived in SF, and visit NYC and Chicago often and I can say Louisville has some great local cafes that would do fine in any of those cities.

3. I live around the block from both a Trader Joe's and a Whole Foods in the St. Matthews neighborhood. Bardstown Road in The Highland neighborhood must have a local one as well, though, because that is considered our "hipster" area.

4. Louisville is the major city in Kentucky with most of the jobs and families. UK has the flagship university, but that's a younger demographic in Lexington. Louisville is attracting a lot of college graduates and has a large university itself.

5. Louisville has a very hip/hipster vibe to it. Lots of people in The Highlands with the alternative looks and tattoos, piercings, haircuts, etc. Lots of local breweries and with bourbon as the new hip drink, bourbon and local bars are everywhere. Depends what type of music you're into, but Louisville has a lot of live music if you like country and rock and local bands.

6. I'm not an outdoorsy person at all, but Louisville has one of the largest park systems in the country. One of the very few fully completed park and parkway systems designed by the man that designed Central Park in NYC. Cherokee Park is the flagship park in Louisville and it's beautiful. The parkway system is beautiful. And many other smaller parks around the city can be dedicated to him, and I believe even Iroquois Park in the south side as well. Around Louisville, I believe there are a lot of hiking areas and it's a (long) day trip to the Appalachians in Eastern Kentucky which I would assume have great hiking and national and state parks.

Honestly, I never imagined Louisville would be the city that it is. I ended up here after applying to law schools and realizing University of Louisville would be the best education for the price for me and went with that route. After being here, I've realized it's a very underrated city. Amazing local food scene always written up about. Large liberal/hip/gay/progressive population especially on the east side of the city. 4am last call has been a great experience and going back to 2am when I visit friends and family in LA feels weird. I really don't know much about KCMO, but after living in Louisville for over a year now, I can't see how I would prefer KC over Louisville. I do really like it here, and the only reason I plan to live is to live in a more walkable and urban city with a rapid transit system such as Chicago, DC, or Philly. If I can't make it to a city like that, I'll probably just stay here because I do really like. I'm a gay, socialist Jew that can't be much further left. I eat nearly every food imaginable. And I do really like it here.
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Old 10-25-2015, 11:38 PM
 
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1. Louisville doesn't have any lightrail. Idk much about KCMO, but I'm assuming their bus system isn't any better. It depends on where you live and work. Downtown and Old Louisville have pretty good bus access. Buses go down all the major streets like Shelbyville, Bardstown, 4th, Frankfort, Eastern Parkway, etc.

2. Again, idk much about KCMO, but I have to say Louisville has some great local coffee shops! I'm from LA, lived in SF, and visit NYC and Chicago often and I can say Louisville has some great local cafes that would do fine in any of those cities.

3. I live around the block from both a Trader Joe's and a Whole Foods in the St. Matthews neighborhood. Bardstown Road in The Highland neighborhood must have a local one as well, though, because that is considered our "hipster" area.

4. Louisville is the major city in Kentucky with most of the jobs and families. UK has the flagship university, but that's a younger demographic in Lexington. Louisville is attracting a lot of college graduates and has a large university itself.

5. Louisville has a very hip/hipster vibe to it. Lots of people in The Highlands with the alternative looks and tattoos, piercings, haircuts, etc. Lots of local breweries and with bourbon as the new hip drink, bourbon and local bars are everywhere. Depends what type of music you're into, but Louisville has a lot of live music if you like country and rock and local bands.

6. I'm not an outdoorsy person at all, but Louisville has one of the largest park systems in the country. One of the very few fully completed park and parkway systems designed by the man that designed Central Park in NYC. Cherokee Park is the flagship park in Louisville and it's beautiful. The parkway system is beautiful. And many other smaller parks around the city can be dedicated to him, and I believe even Iroquois Park in the south side as well. Around Louisville, I believe there are a lot of hiking areas and it's a (long) day trip to the Appalachians in Eastern Kentucky which I would assume have great hiking and national and state parks.

Honestly, I never imagined Louisville would be the city that it is. I ended up here after applying to law schools and realizing University of Louisville would be the best education for the price for me and went with that route. After being here, I've realized it's a very underrated city. Amazing local food scene always written up about. Large liberal/hip/gay/progressive population especially on the east side of the city. 4am last call has been a great experience and going back to 2am when I visit friends and family in LA feels weird. I really don't know much about KCMO, but after living in Louisville for over a year now, I can't see how I would prefer KC over Louisville. I do really like it here, and the only reason I plan to live is to live in a more walkable and urban city with a rapid transit system such as Chicago, DC, or Philly. If I can't make it to a city like that, I'll probably just stay here because I do really like. I'm a gay, socialist Jew that can't be much further left. I eat nearly every food imaginable. And I do really like it here.
Agree on all account. Louisville is surprisingly easy. Also, I predict that should you move to Chicago...you may end up back in Louisville The place just draws you back. Big city amenities without the big city hassle. I HIGHLY recommend you take a week and stay in an airbnb with a local who knows each city well and can map it out for you . Louisville is a cooler city than KC, and IMO much more compact and easy to navigate.
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Old 10-26-2015, 12:35 PM
 
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Both are excellent city choices. I really like KCMO and they are probably my 3rd favorite music scene (behind Chicago and Champaign, IL), but it really depends on what kind of music you prefer. I like midwestern indie rock personally (Hum, Shiner, The Life and Times, Traindodge etc. etc.)

1) KC has fantastic BBQ, but I feel like Louisville is leaps and bounds ahead in good restaurants
2) Neither are really that walkable (outside of the main core) and public transit systems are marginal at best
3) Neither has a plethora of Whole Foods and Trader Joes, but they exist in both cities. Louisville has Rainbow Blossom though which is the local version and there are more than a couple of locations now. I think both cities have a good farmer's market presence.
4) explain hippy vibe? There's hipsters everywhere now, but that's not really what I think you're asking. There are some salt of the earth people in both cities as well, but I think culturally Louisville wins there.
5) Louisville wins on coffee shops as far as I'm concerned, but I am a bit biased. My brother worked for Heine Brothers for a while and I've experienced some really cool things at their shops, like a group of monks that came in last winter to perform a ceremony and create a sand mandala in the shop. It was amazing to witness as I was "working" remotely from the shop that week.
6) Kentucky overall wins on outdoorsy stuff. There are tons of great places in the city and within a 2 hour drive of the city that you'll never really get burnt out on one particular place.

KC is also in the middle of tornado alley. That's enough to scare me off, but one thing going for KC that Louisville doesn't have (yet), is Google Fiber. If that means anything to you (it does to my wife and I, who both work in tech/software) then that's a check for KC. Louisville is currently being researched by Google to offer Fiber in the future, but who knows how long that may take.
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Old 10-26-2015, 01:16 PM
 
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Both are excellent city choices. I really like KCMO and they are probably my 3rd favorite music scene (behind Chicago and Champaign, IL), but it really depends on what kind of music you prefer. I like midwestern indie rock personally (Hum, Shiner, The Life and Times, Traindodge etc. etc.)

1) KC has fantastic BBQ, but I feel like Louisville is leaps and bounds ahead in good restaurants
2) Neither are really that walkable (outside of the main core) and public transit systems are marginal at best
3) Neither has a plethora of Whole Foods and Trader Joes, but they exist in both cities. Louisville has Rainbow Blossom though which is the local version and there are more than a couple of locations now. I think both cities have a good farmer's market presence.
4) explain hippy vibe? There's hipsters everywhere now, but that's not really what I think you're asking. There are some salt of the earth people in both cities as well, but I think culturally Louisville wins there.
5) Louisville wins on coffee shops as far as I'm concerned, but I am a bit biased. My brother worked for Heine Brothers for a while and I've experienced some really cool things at their shops, like a group of monks that came in last winter to perform a ceremony and create a sand mandala in the shop. It was amazing to witness as I was "working" remotely from the shop that week.
6) Kentucky overall wins on outdoorsy stuff. There are tons of great places in the city and within a 2 hour drive of the city that you'll never really get burnt out on one particular place.

KC is also in the middle of tornado alley. That's enough to scare me off, but one thing going for KC that Louisville doesn't have (yet), is Google Fiber. If that means anything to you (it does to my wife and I, who both work in tech/software) then that's a check for KC. Louisville is currently being researched by Google to offer Fiber in the future, but who knows how long that may take.
Nice post. A few things...Louisville has several other major organic chains...Lucky's and Earth Fare come to mind. Believe it or not, Valumarket has impressive organics. Any of the nice areas whered youd live, from prospect to middletown, st matthews to crescent hill and highlands will have one of these stores within 10 mins.

Google fiber has never announced a possible city and then not come. I wouldn't let that away my decision since Im 90% sure Fiber will be here by 2018.

https://fiber.google.com/newcities/

Google already hired a couple people here who are researching where/how to build the network. Fiber had never announced a "possible" city they did not build in. To give an analogy, Louisville is up 3 touchdowns with 5 mins left in the game. Sure, they could lose, but historically unlikely.
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Old 10-26-2015, 01:40 PM
 
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Nice post. A few things...Louisville has several other major organic chains...Lucky's and Earth Fare come to mind. Believe it or not, Valumarket has impressive organics. Any of the nice areas whered youd live, from prospect to middletown, st matthews to crescent hill and highlands will have one of these stores within 10 mins.

Google fiber has never announced a possible city and then not come. I wouldn't let that away my decision since Im 90% sure Fiber will be here by 2018.

https://fiber.google.com/newcities/

Google already hired a couple people here who are researching where/how to build the network. Fiber had never announced a "possible" city they did not build in. To give an analogy, Louisville is up 3 touchdowns with 5 mins left in the game. Sure, they could lose, but historically unlikely.
True. I'm not really skeptical of Google's side of things. As I'm sure you've experienced in Prospect, the East End bridge was necessary over 15 years ago, and it's something that has been talked about since I had training wheels on my bike, and I'm 39 now and it's still not done. I realize that may be a different scenario, but it has me skeptical about how quickly Louisville moves on certain projects regardless.
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Old 10-30-2015, 11:49 PM
 
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True. I'm not really skeptical of Google's side of things. As I'm sure you've experienced in Prospect, the East End bridge was necessary over 15 years ago, and it's something that has been talked about since I had training wheels on my bike, and I'm 39 now and it's still not done. I realize that may be a different scenario, but it has me skeptical about how quickly Louisville moves on certain projects regardless.
Servo...you are correct. but the past 5 years are very different. Stuff is getting announced....and built! Thus the bridges are about done (and a about 2 billion of additional downtown construction underway/proposed)!
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Old 11-05-2015, 04:30 PM
 
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Another thing you would find interesting if you're an outdoor person Is the Louisville Loop. It's under construction at the present time it will end up being a 110 mile loop around the entire county that will be accessible for bikes and hiking. I believe at the present time is about 40 miles of completed. Somebody else mentioned the park system which is fantastic, the core of most of the parks was designed by Olmsted and they have been kept up remarkably well over the years. There is also a huge new Park complex south of the city called the Parklands which is wonderful with lots of places to hike, bike and even use canoes or kayaks.
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