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Old 11-29-2016, 06:41 AM
 
Location: louisville
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Comes directly here from where?
From Mexico, up through Texas and then Memphis or St. Louis. Louisville wasn't a big market till 5 or 6 years ago. Then it went crazy.
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Old 11-29-2016, 07:27 AM
 
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From Mexico, up through Texas and then Memphis or St. Louis. Louisville wasn't a big market till 5 or 6 years ago. Then it went crazy.
Louisville is now one of the major markets for drugs. It comes directly from Mexico and apparently they are using some of the UPS supply chain routes.

Listen. Louisville is no worse or no better in heroin than any other city in middle America. From Kansas City to Cincinnati, Milwaukee to Birmingham, its a national epidemic. This stuff used to go straight to Chicago and Detroit, which supplied the Midwest, and Atlanta and Florida, which supplied the southeast. But now these secondary like markets like Louisville are major centers for the Mexican cartels.
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Old 11-29-2016, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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And people think it is a bad idea to build a wall at the border.
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:26 PM
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Louisville is now one of the major markets for drugs. It comes directly from Mexico and apparently they are using some of the UPS supply chain routes.
Are you saying the heroin arrives in Louisville via UPS? Is Trump going to build his wall high enough to stop UPS?
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Old 11-30-2016, 06:01 AM
 
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Time to legalize ALL drugs, tax them and regulate. If the govt. regulated Heroin , they could make it safer to use , make it weaker and with the taxes levied on it, pay for treatment facilities and other therapies. Of course that makes perfect sense but as long as drugs are illegal, gang murders will continue as well as crimes associated with drugs which feeds the private prison industry and of course the govt. would never agree to slashing thousands of DEA jobs. I have yet to ever hear 1 valid and logical reason to keep drugs illegal
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Old 11-30-2016, 06:03 AM
 
Location: louisville
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Time to legalize ALL drugs, tax them and regulate. If the govt. regulated Heroin , they could make it safer to use , make it weaker and with the taxes levied on it, pay for treatment facilities and other therapies. Of course that makes perfect sense but as long as drugs are illegal, gang murders will continue as well as crimes associated with drugs which feeds the private prison industry and of course the govt. would never agree to slashing thousands of DEA jobs. I have yet to ever hear 1 valid and logical reason to keep drugs illegal
There has been multiple threads over the years on that. You are not alone in that sentiment.
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Old 11-30-2016, 09:20 AM
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To concede the war on drugs, and legalize them, is a confession that we don't have the competence to successfully fight and win that war. But is it really true? If we're really so driveling incompetent, what causes that incompetence? Shouldn't we make at least some effort to address that issue, before we completely give up? After so many decades of fighting that war, do we want to remember forever, that we tried to fight it but could not muster the competence to win it? If we make drugs legal, we should do it for good reasons, not because of driveling incompetence. Therefore, the very first thing we should do is address the issue of why we can't win, and figure out if there is a better way to win. Then, once we understand our own incompetence better, it might make sense to legalize drugs.
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Old 11-30-2016, 09:23 AM
 
Location: IL/IN/FL/CA/KY/FL/KY/WA
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To concede the war on drugs, and legalize them, is a confession that we don't have the competence to successfully fight and win that war. But is it really true? If we're really so driveling incompetent, what causes that incompetence? Shouldn't we make at least some effort to address that issue, before we completely give up? After so many decades of fighting that war, do we want to remember forever, that we tried to fight it but could not muster the competence to win it? If we make drugs legal, we should do it for good reasons, not because of driveling incompetence. Therefore, the very first thing we should do is address the issue of why we can't win, and figure out if there is a better way to win. Then, once we understand our own incompetence better, it might make sense to legalize drugs.
If we knew what we didn't know - we'd probably know how to fight it better.
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Old 12-01-2016, 08:34 AM
 
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To concede the war on drugs, and legalize them, is a confession that we don't have the competence to successfully fight and win that war. But is it really true? If we're really so driveling incompetent, what causes that incompetence? Shouldn't we make at least some effort to address that issue, before we completely give up? After so many decades of fighting that war, do we want to remember forever, that we tried to fight it but could not muster the competence to win it? If we make drugs legal, we should do it for good reasons, not because of driveling incompetence. Therefore, the very first thing we should do is address the issue of why we can't win, and figure out if there is a better way to win. Then, once we understand our own incompetence better, it might make sense to legalize drugs.
Did we really lose or was the war never winnable to begin with...I surmise its the latter. Those who personally choose to do drugs will continue to make those choices to the end of time, no legal ramifications has altered their decisions nor the countless testimonies from those in the health sector so why should we keep throwing money at a lost cause ?
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:23 PM
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Did we really lose or was the war never winnable to begin with...I surmise its the latter. Those who personally choose to do drugs will continue to make those choices to the end of time, no legal ramifications has altered their decisions nor the countless testimonies from those in the health sector so why should we keep throwing money at a lost cause ?
So the purpose of the war on drugs was to convince people not to do drugs?
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