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04-14-2008, 11:18 AM
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40211 is the middle most western zipcode of the pre-merger city of Louisville. It is unfortunately perceived to be unsafe due to flooding, racism, and crime. There are literally thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of these architectural gems all around our nation whose market values have been destroyed by flooding, racism, and/or crime. Which caused this home to be effectively worthless? But the more important and even essential question is, "how can we restore it to be a demanded home once again?
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04-14-2008, 01:55 PM
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el gringo loco
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ddavidson, how long have been away from Louisville? If you're asking whether a house in the heart of the West End is safe, I'm guessing a very long time
Parts of Portland are quite safe and home to some very affordable pre civil war mansions, but there are much more affluent historic areas you could live in for $150-257 thousand (Old Louisville, the Highlands, Frankfort Ave). There are also lots of Victorian era mansions right off of Southern Pky in the South End
As for flooding, Louisville's flood wall is built to a level 3 feet higher than the 1937 flood (which was a 1,000 year flood), so baring a Noah's Ark type flood, all of Louisville is safe from Ohio River flooding. Current flooding issues are only from small creeks and canals on the South End.
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04-14-2008, 03:04 PM
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Now was that nice!
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Perhaps you should! Image is important!
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Thanks! And fighting like a 10 year old girl seems important to you.
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04-14-2008, 03:07 PM
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Now was that nice!
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My view is mostly based on a weekend we spent there a couple years ago. Maybe there was something in the air. We came in to town for a wedding and Mapquest took us directly through a large section of the city with boarded up houses/shops/etc. Traffic was similar to other large cities but horns were blaring left and right and intersections were blocked during a light change on numerous occasions. The horn blaring and cursing was never directed towards us but it created a negative ambiance. At one point, we backed out of a parking lot and began to pull up to the street. Some sweet little old lady noticed there was a gap in front of her car where we might eventually pull out and she gave us an ugly look and gunned her car forward to close the gap. My wife and I started cracking up, but boy did the people seemed pissed off there.
At the dinner after the wedding rehearsal, one resident told us a common thing to ask is what side of the lake you live on. He said if they were from the other side, there was no point in carrying on the conversation. Then there were rude people in the tuxedo shop as well. As I said, not all of this was directed at us. We noticed most of the behavior between Cleveland natives and it just soured our opinion of the area.
The city itself (other than the abandoned areas of town) seemed like it had some things going for it. The people just did not seem very happy.
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Sorry to hear that. Damn drivers! lol. I guess I am just one of those Cleveland drivers so it doesn't stick out to me. Some cities I have noticed extremely rude drivers in was Atlanta, Denver, Houston and of course LA, much worse than what I am use to.
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04-14-2008, 03:12 PM
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Now was that nice!
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censusdata, sent you a PM.  Enough with the bashing of Louisville. Cincinnati and Louisville are two great cities with so much development going on. We should enjoy these bustling cities. I heard Louisville's waterfront park is not finished yet. How much riverfront will it take up, and does anyone have any renderings?
FYI, watch out for Mikieo415, he likes to ruin threads by following me around, arguing with me and not even offering one ounce of importance to the thread.
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04-14-2008, 05:11 PM
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el gringo loco
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Cleveland is actually one of my favorite cities. I have sisters that are twins that go to that stupid twins festival every year in Twinsburg. I drop them off and then take the drive 30 miles into Cleveland.
Cleveland has a very nice waterfront area with lots of parkland with several large museums and the Browns stadium. There are some really nice areas (specifically Lakewood) just west of downtown along the waterfront. The people up there seem very laid back and friendly.
Photos from Panoramio

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04-14-2008, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by censusdata
ddavidson, how long have been away from Louisville? If you're asking whether a house in the heart of the West End is safe, I'm guessing a very long time
Parts of Portland are quite safe and home to some very affordable pre civil war mansions, but there are much more affluent historic areas you could live in for $150-257 thousand (Old Louisville, the Highlands, Frankfort Ave). There are also lots of Victorian era mansions right off of Southern Pky in the South End
As for flooding, Louisville's flood wall is built to a level 3 feet higher than the 1937 flood (which was a 1,000 year flood), so baring a Noah's Ark type flood, all of Louisville is safe from Ohio River flooding. Current flooding issues are only from small creeks and canals on the South End.
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Be aware, the March 1997 flood was within that 3' safe zone. Also, note I understand that none of the New Orleans levee's were actually overflowed, but structurally failed. Louisville's 1997 almost became Clinton's Kamille.
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04-14-2008, 06:10 PM
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el gringo loco
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Be aware, the March 1997 flood was within that 3' safe zone. Also, note I understand that none of the New Orleans levee's were actually overflowed, but structurally failed. Louisville's 1997 almost became Clinton's Kamille.
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That's not possible - the flood wall is 3 feet above the 1937 level and the 1997 flood was 15 feet lower than the 1937 level - meaning the flood wall had 18 more feet of protection
Historical Crests for Ohio River at McAlpine Lock and Dam
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04-14-2008, 07:28 PM
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As you study your theory of governmental management, you must understand that flood walls narrow channels forcing huge amounts of water down a narrow area. It was the levies of the Mississippi in Illinois and Missouri that actually caused the huge damages of the 1993 floods.
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04-14-2008, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by censusdata
ddavidson, how long have been away from Louisville? If you're asking whether a house in the heart of the West End is safe, I'm guessing a very long time
Parts of Portland are quite safe and home to some very affordable pre civil war mansions, but there are much more affluent historic areas you could live in for $150-257 thousand (Old Louisville, the Highlands, Frankfort Ave). There are also lots of Victorian era mansions right off of Southern Pky in the South End
As for flooding, Louisville's flood wall is built to a level 3 feet higher than the 1937 flood (which was a 1,000 year flood), so baring a Noah's Ark type flood, all of Louisville is safe from Ohio River flooding. Current flooding issues are only from small creeks and canals on the South End.
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Thanks for the info. I'll check into some of those areas.
I graduated from high school in 1994 and went immediately to Lexington for college. I then went to Illinois in 2000 and have been here ever since. I still have family that live in Louisville but they are mostly located (now) in the Hikes Pt area. My mother moved from Okolona to there. Since I never spent much of my adult life in Louisville, I'm not very familiar with the different parts of the city.
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