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Old 12-13-2016, 09:25 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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The biggest construction project in the region is almost totally done. The downtown interchange has been rebuilt with an extra bridge opened in November and the East End Bridge connecting the Indiana and Kentucky segments of future I-265 will open this Sunday, Dec 18th. It was just announced that tolling will start Sunday Dec 30th.


Tolling rates is more complex than usual. It is all electronic with no booths. If you order a transponder sticker and link your bank account it is $2 per pass unless you cross 40 times per month and then it's $1 a pass. (if you have 39 monthly crossings it will cost $78 vs $40 if you crossed 1 more time). If you don't have a transponder the system will mail you a $4 per pass bill monthly based on your license plate, late fees could apply. Big trucks will pay over $10 a pass.


The project has already greatly improved rush hour downtown freeway traffic flow. The 10 to 20 minute delay on I-64 west from I-264 to I-65 is completely gone. The East End bridge will route most thru traffic between St Louis and Cincinnati or Lexington around the beltline rather than downtown.
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Old 12-13-2016, 04:00 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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There will also be a pedestrian walkway on one side of the East End Bridge. The only trailhead parking lot for now is on the Utica IN side off Old Salem Rd.


East End Bridge includes multi-use path for walkers, runners, cy - WDRB 41 Louisville News
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Old 12-14-2016, 09:51 AM
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you have 39 monthly crossings it will cost $78 vs $40 if you crossed 1 more time
I wonder how much extra traffic will be generated by those going back and forth to meet their monthly 40 trip quota. The intelligent way to do it would have been to charge a maximum of $40 per month for anyone who has a transponder and makes at least 20 trips per month.
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Old 12-14-2016, 01:56 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Another issue is that 8% to 20% of households have no bank account and therefore can not use a transponder. You have to link your online account to a bank account and pre pay at least a few dollars before getting a transponder, meaning the poorest people will have to spend $4 per trip. That's why I really wish a modern style toll booth with both electronic tolling and a conventional booth would have been chosen instead.
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Old 12-14-2016, 10:53 PM
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A lot of people would take a different bridge in preference to paying a $4 toll. But what if it's someone driving from Virginia to Denver? How are they going to collect the toll from that person? Do they have the addresses of out-of-state vehicles?
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Old 12-15-2016, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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A lot of people would take a different bridge in preference to paying a $4 toll. But what if it's someone driving from Virginia to Denver? How are they going to collect the toll from that person? Do they have the addresses of out-of-state vehicles?
There was a news segment on WDRB last night in which they discussed the very question you are asking. They called it 'leakage', and that some states do not yet have agreements with Kentucky to share their address databases, and until they reach an agreement, Kentucky cannot collect on that toll.
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Old 12-15-2016, 09:56 AM
 
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Another issue is that 8% to 20% of households have no bank account and therefore can not use a transponder. You have to link your online account to a bank account and pre pay at least a few dollars before getting a transponder, meaning the poorest people will have to spend $4 per trip. That's why I really wish a modern style toll booth with both electronic tolling and a conventional booth would have been chosen instead.
No, you link the online account to a "credit card". Those that don't have bank accounts generally have prepaid debit cards these days, meaning they would qualify for the transponder. I've worked in the banking industry for 16 years, and the research shows that it's a very very small % (<2%) who don't have any form of payment other than cash/EBT. They may not have a checking account at a traditional bank, but prepaid card accounts do have a routing/transit and account number that can be used for direct deposit or ACH withdrawals as well - and the usage of those continue to rise among lower income households.

I personally think your concern is unfounded. Physical toll booths slow traffic considerably, not to mention the additional cost to operate. Most tolling operations are moving to the one that we've built.
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Old 12-15-2016, 09:59 AM
 
Location: IL/IN/FL/CA/KY/FL
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There was a news segment on WDRB last night in which they discussed the very question you are asking. They called it 'leakage', and that some states do not yet have agreements with Kentucky to share their address databases, and until they reach an agreement, Kentucky cannot collect on that toll.
They'll get there eventually - they just have to pony up for the databases and get the data to align in their system properly. For now, I would say they'd lump those few ones into their bucket of non-payers (everyone assumes a certain percentage of non-payers) and then budget accordingly.
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Old 12-15-2016, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Northern VA (for now)
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Hey census, are these bridges using the EZpass transponders?
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Old 12-15-2016, 06:06 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Hey census, are these bridges using the EZpass transponders?
Yes, they take EZPass and a local only RiverLink pass. When you set up the account you can get a RiverLink sticker for free or pay $15 to get an EZPass transponder that will work other places too.
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