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Old 12-20-2016, 03:31 PM
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You can catch a bus up and downtown Bardstown road every 15 mins almost any hour from 6 AM to 1 AM, and there are even some buses that run in the early hours.
How far down Bardstown does the bus go every 15 minutes? As far as I264? I265? Farther?
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Old 12-20-2016, 03:37 PM
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With fatalities going up hopefully cops will start writing more tickets to get things in line. In Kentucky I rarely see cops on any freeway.
Be careful what you wish for. They probably won't do much to stop the crazy drivers, but more likely stop a lot of people for going 58 in a 55 zone.

A lot of those crazy drivers should be patrolled by helicopter. Only from the air can you see how crazy they really are.
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Old 12-20-2016, 03:56 PM
 
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I don't think Louisville even remotely resembles a poor city. Yes the wage scale is lower (which is not that bad since the COL is lower than a lot of the Southeast, especially Virginia), there are poor neighborhoods but every major city has them. Louisville is more middle class/working class-ish. Very few will be balling out of control like they are in Northern VA but people don't have too much trouble getting by and having a middle-class life.
Agree.

But dont kid yourself. Louisville has some EXTREME wealth too. Especially some old money. Two of the wealthiest suburbs in the USA are in Louisville...Glenview and Mockingbird Valley. Louisville has a couple zips among the wealthiest in the USA.


Overall, Louisville is on average a middle class, old industrial, blue collar city at its core....but it also has this very old money rich population, and a growing class of new rich hipsters and yuppies
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Old 12-20-2016, 03:57 PM
 
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How far down Bardstown does the bus go every 15 minutes? As far as I264? I265? Farther?
mainly I-264


The reason? There are at least 4 different lines which pass through the Highlands. So if your destination is within the Highlands from Baxter to the Watterson, you can pretty much catch any of these before they start diverging near bashford, hikes ln, fern creek, toward airport, etc
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Old 12-20-2016, 05:38 PM
 
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Be careful what you wish for. They probably won't do much to stop the crazy drivers, but more likely stop a lot of people for going 58 in a 55 zone.

A lot of those crazy drivers should be patrolled by helicopter. Only from the air can you see how crazy they really are.
58 in a 55? This sounds exactly like a story I heard about Fairfax County VA cops.
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Old 12-20-2016, 10:27 PM
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58 in a 55? This sounds exactly like a story I heard about Fairfax County VA cops.
We don't presently have that. The point is that people should not wish for cops to start writing more tickets, because then we might get that. Is it worth it just to reduce the number of crazy drivers? If they could patrol for crazy drivers only, and use helicopters to see how crazy they really are, that would be good, but it usually doesn't work out that way, when people start wanting cops to write more tickets.

Every city has crazy drivers. But in Louisville they tend to stand out more, because of how relaxed most other drivers are. The crazy drivers do things like approach you from behind at 90 MPH and don't pass you till they're almost on your tail, so you have no way to know if they're actually going to pass or hit you. Sometimes they're so much under the influence of something, that they actually do hit someone. Just often enough to keep everyone scared of them, but not often enough to cause constant major wrecks.

Fortunately they're a small minority of drivers. But they stand out and everyone notices them. But if we get more cops, and tell them to write more tickets, what do you think they're going to do?
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:04 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Crazy drivers kill 30,000 people each year, cops writing tickets for 58 in a 55 kills no one. I do think more police giving traffic tickets make a big difference because drivers are better in places that ticket more often. That's why drivers rarely reach 65 in on New Circle Rd in Lexington but on the Watterson in Louisville 80 mph is routine.
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Old 12-21-2016, 12:20 PM
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Crazy drivers kill 30,000 people each year, cops writing tickets for 58 in a 55 kills no one. I do think more police giving traffic tickets make a big difference because drivers are better in places that ticket more often. That's why drivers rarely reach 65 in on New Circle Rd in Lexington but on the Watterson in Louisville 80 mph is routine.
To go even 55 on New Circle Road in Lexington, you have to wait till the traffic is not jammed. Lexington seems to have much worse traffic than Louisville, even though Louisville is bigger and has more traffic overall. My impression of Louisville traffic is that the vast majority are sane drivers. The few going 80 and constantly changing lanes and acting like jerks seem to be a relatively small minority. But they stand out and give Louisville traffic an overall image of being crazy.

What year did crazy drivers kill 30,000 people? Where?
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Old 12-28-2016, 02:07 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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I don't think Louisville even remotely resembles a poor city. Yes the wage scale is lower (which is not that bad since the COL is lower than a lot of the Southeast, especially Virginia), there are poor neighborhoods but every major city has them. Louisville is more middle class/working class-ish. Very few will be balling out of control like they are in Northern VA but people don't have too much trouble getting by and having a middle-class life.

People that love Louisville act like the entire city is the Highlands or Oldham Co. People that hate it act like the entire city is East St Louis. In reality 80% of the metro would be accurately described as Blue Collar Middle Class. There's a big gap between Louisville and boom towns like Austin or Raleigh but there's also a big gap between Louisville and dying cities like Youngstown or decent but stagnant Dayton.
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Old 12-30-2016, 09:10 AM
 
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People that love Louisville act like the entire city is the Highlands or Oldham Co. People that hate it act like the entire city is East St Louis. In reality 80% of the metro would be accurately described as Blue Collar Middle Class. There's a big gap between Louisville and boom towns like Austin or Raleigh but there's also a big gap between Louisville and dying cities like Youngstown or decent but stagnant Dayton.
This is true - much of what the 11th poorest statement was looking at wage gap and % of educated. We have some of the poorest people in a metro area, but we also have a very high percentage of $150k+ earners because of a lot of the old money that exists here. Here's the article I'm referencing:

11. Louisville, Kentucky - Americas 11 poorest cities - CBS News
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