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Old 08-18-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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I have a problem I've been dealing with for some years now. It's that there are a lot of people walking around carrying guns. Sometimes people carry them concealed, sometimes openly with a holster. I personally don't like guns or own any guns, but evidently this is legal in Kentucky, so I accept that. However, my problem is that I keep running into people who are extremely irresponsible with their firearms. What I have noticed is that most of the people who do this tend to be women or small, relatively weak men, while they span all age groups.

I'm in my thirties, and I think the first experience I had with this when I was in high school. While walking into the front entrance to the school, I noticed a middle-aged woman coming in, and while she came up to me and confronted me, she revealed that she had a handgun in her possession. I asked her if she had lost her mind, bringing a handgun into a school campus. She resisted my objections but soon after, another adult came along and told her to leave. In more recent times, I have noticed this happening a lot more. I've had times where people will brandish their guns at me for their own amusement. I have had multiple experiences where someone draws their gun at me, and I genuinely feel that they were trying to kill me, and I've had to fight them and beat them up. On a few occasions, someone has pulled a gun on me and I have disarmed them and confiscated the gun; I wasn't sure what to do with the gun, so I would usually throw it on the roof of a building so that the person couldn't get it back easily, or if a lake was nearby, I would throw it in the lake. There have even been times when a person has pulled a gun and tried to shoot me outright, but a good Samaritan would come along at just the right moment to restrain the person and stop them from shooting me. Other times a person has pulled a gun on me and prepared to fire, but stop themselves, evidently from a crisis of conscience. At times, I have had to hit people with blunt objects, stab people with knives, throw people off balconies, etc., just to prevent them from shooting me with their guns. Often when they would try to hold me at gunpoint, I would firmly ask them to let go of the gun, and if they said no then I would often apply a quick armlock and break their arm, after which they would typically drop the gun. Once, I was sitting in a bus station or waiting room or something, and I was sitting next to my mother. Across from me, I noticed a woman was pointing her gun at me and casually threatening me with it. Not only did I object to her threatening me but I also strongly objected to her pointing a gun in the direction of my mother as well, who at the time was preoccupied and oblivious to what the woman was doing. I got up and casually walked up to her and asked her to stop pointing her gun at me; she refused and then I grabbed her hand and broke one of her fingers.

I can remember times in which I would scuffle with a gun-wielding person, and in the process the gunman would unwittingly point the gun at bystanders, who then would yell in protest or take cover. Sometimes, the gunman would accidentally point the gun at a small child, after which the child's mother would desperately grab her child and turn around to shield the child with her body. I remember once, a guy threatened me with a gun and I disarmed him and began to reprimand him for what he did. And then as I was doing this, a gun-carrying woman comes along and demands at gunpoint that I leave him alone. I then grab the guy with one arm and point the gun I confiscated to his head, using him as a human shield and demanding the woman to put the gun away. The guy I was using as a human shield also yelled at her to put the gun away, as she was only exacerbating the situation. I remember once, I scuffled with a woman to take her gun away, and she ended up lying on the floor with the gun just slightly out of her reach. I held a knife and warned her not to go for the gun, but she went for it anyway and I stabbed her in the arm. She recoiled in pain but then went for it again, so I stabbed her again, and this happened several more times before she gave up. I remember one time, I was in a public place and I was making out with some girl, and a guy walked up and, evidently out of jealousy, instinctively pointed his gun at me. One time, I was somewhere and I saw some kind of trinket lying on the floor; I kneeled down to pick it up and then right as I did this, a woman walked up and pointed her gun at me and stated that it was hers and demanded that I give it to her.

A few years ago, I used to live in an apartment where my landlord was a belligerent jerk. I would sometimes get into fistfights with him out in the yard; oftentimes as I did this, people would drive by in their cars, see me fighting him and then stop, get out of their cars and aim their gun at me, ready to fire. A neighbor across the street who would often sit on her front porch would often have to run up and restrain the person to stop them from shooting me. At this same apartment, there was another woman who lived nearby who didn't like me and, while I was minding my own business in the yard, would regularly confront me and threaten me with her gun. For example, I would be outside eating a grapefruit with a knife, and she would come along and start threatening me on the basis that I had a weapon, which of course made no sense, since she had a much deadlier weapon.

I could go on and on telling more stories about people threatening me with guns, but I think you get the picture. I am not anti-gun, per se. I think people should be allowed to own guns and even to carry guns around, but I think that the government requirements for obtaining gun permits should be more stringent, so that impulsive, irresponsible knuckleheads won't be able to get them. Also, I think there should be harsher punishments for people who abuse their guns or who carry guns without a permit (as many of the people who have threatened me with a gun didn't even have a permit at the time). Has anyone else had this kind of problem? What can I do to put a stop to this problem of untrained and irresponsible people carrying guns around?

 
Old 08-18-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: South Austin, 78745
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What exactly are you doing that you would have so many people point their guns at you? That's not normal. Maybe you're hallucinating. I'm no Doctor and I'm not normally one to offer a stranger unasked for advice, but for your own self-interest, you might wanna go to a hospital emergency room and tell them the story you told here, and I bet they can get you the help you need.

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I have a problem I've been dealing with for some years now. It's that there are a lot of people walking around carrying guns. Sometimes people carry them concealed, sometimes openly with a holster. I personally don't like guns or own any guns, but evidently this is legal in Kentucky, so I accept that. However, my problem is that I keep running into people who are extremely irresponsible with their firearms. What I have noticed is that most of the people who do this tend to be women or small, relatively weak men, while they span all age groups.

I'm in my thirties, and I think the first experience I had with this when I was in high school. While walking into the front entrance to the school, I noticed a middle-aged woman coming in, and while she came up to me and confronted me, she revealed that she had a handgun in her possession. I asked her if she had lost her mind, bringing a handgun into a school campus. She resisted my objections but soon after, another adult came along and told her to leave. In more recent times, I have noticed this happening a lot more. I've had times where people will brandish their guns at me for their own amusement. I have had multiple experiences where someone draws their gun at me, and I genuinely feel that they were trying to kill me, and I've had to fight them and beat them up. On a few occasions, someone has pulled a gun on me and I have disarmed them and confiscated the gun; I wasn't sure what to do with the gun, so I would usually throw it on the roof of a building so that the person couldn't get it back easily, or if a lake was nearby, I would throw it in the lake. There have even been times when a person has pulled a gun and tried to shoot me outright, but a good Samaritan would come along at just the right moment to restrain the person and stop them from shooting me. Other times a person has pulled a gun on me and prepared to fire, but stop themselves, evidently from a crisis of conscience. At times, I have had to hit people with blunt objects, stab people with knives, throw people off balconies, etc., just to prevent them from shooting me with their guns. Often when they would try to hold me at gunpoint, I would firmly ask them to let go of the gun, and if they said no then I would often apply a quick armlock and break their arm, after which they would typically drop the gun. Once, I was sitting in a bus station or waiting room or something, and I was sitting next to my mother. Across from me, I noticed a woman was pointing her gun at me and casually threatening me with it. Not only did I object to her threatening me but I also strongly objected to her pointing a gun in the direction of my mother as well, who at the time was preoccupied and oblivious to what the woman was doing. I got up and casually walked up to her and asked her to stop pointing her gun at me; she refused and then I grabbed her hand and broke one of her fingers.

I can remember times in which I would scuffle with a gun-wielding person, and in the process the gunman would unwittingly point the gun at bystanders, who then would yell in protest or take cover. Sometimes, the gunman would accidentally point the gun at a small child, after which the child's mother would desperately grab her child and turn around to shield the child with her body. I remember once, a guy threatened me with a gun and I disarmed him and began to reprimand him for what he did. And then as I was doing this, a gun-carrying woman comes along and demands at gunpoint that I leave him alone. I then grab the guy with one arm and point the gun I confiscated to his head, using him as a human shield and demanding the woman to put the gun away. The guy I was using as a human shield also yelled at her to put the gun away, as she was only exacerbating the situation. I remember once, I scuffled with a woman to take her gun away, and she ended up lying on the floor with the gun just slightly out of her reach. I held a knife and warned her not to go for the gun, but she went for it anyway and I stabbed her in the arm. She recoiled in pain but then went for it again, so I stabbed her again, and this happened several more times before she gave up. I remember one time, I was in a public place and I was making out with some girl, and a guy walked up and, evidently out of jealousy, instinctively pointed his gun at me. One time, I was somewhere and I saw some kind of trinket lying on the floor; I kneeled down to pick it up and then right as I did this, a woman walked up and pointed her gun at me and stated that it was hers and demanded that I give it to her.

A few years ago, I used to live in an apartment where my landlord was a belligerent jerk. I would sometimes get into fistfights with him out in the yard; oftentimes as I did this, people would drive by in their cars, see me fighting him and then stop, get out of their cars and aim their gun at me, ready to fire. A neighbor across the street who would often sit on her front porch would often have to run up and restrain the person to stop them from shooting me. At this same apartment, there was another woman who lived nearby who didn't like me and, while I was minding my own business in the yard, would regularly confront me and threaten me with her gun. For example, I would be outside eating a grapefruit with a knife, and she would come along and start threatening me on the basis that I had a weapon, which of course made no sense, since she had a much deadlier weapon.

I could go on and on telling more stories about people threatening me with guns, but I think you get the picture. I am not anti-gun, per se. I think people should be allowed to own guns and even to carry guns around, but I think that the government requirements for obtaining gun permits should be more stringent, so that impulsive, irresponsible knuckleheads won't be able to get them. Also, I think there should be harsher punishments for people who abuse their guns or who carry guns without a permit (as many of the people who have threatened me with a gun didn't even have a permit at the time). Has anyone else had this kind of problem? What can I do to put a stop to this problem of untrained and irresponsible people carrying guns around?
 
Old 08-18-2018, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Ditto. I have been around people who handle guns all my life and I’ve never had a single incident approaching the idiocy observed in that one post. I agree that the OP sounds like the common element in all these incidents of bizarre behavior.
 
Old 08-18-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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What exactly are you doing that you would have so many people point their guns at you? That's not normal. Maybe you're hallucinating. I'm no Doctor and I'm not normally one to offer a stranger unasked for advice, but for your own self-interest, you might wanna go to a hospital emergency room and tell them the story you told here, and I bet they can get you the help you need.

I wasn't doing anything, just minding my business. For some reason, people just don't like me. People often assault me even when they don't have guns, but the fact that some of them have guns concerns me significantly more.
 
Old 08-18-2018, 02:35 PM
 
Location: South Austin, 78745
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I wasn't doing anything, just minding my business. For some reason, people just don't like me. People often assault me even when they don't have guns, but the fact that some of them have guns concerns me significantly more.
Something ain't right because it don't make sense. If you're often being assaulted you need to call the police each time you are assaulted and have it documented.
 
Old 08-18-2018, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Erie, PA
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Something ain't right because it don't make sense. If you're often being assaulted you need to call the police each time you are assaulted and have it documented.
^^^^Agree with this advice--the incidents you are describing amount to either assault or brandishing a weapon so you need to call the police and make a report!

OP, it sounds like you are going to continue having some difficulties living in your location due to your discomfort with the open-carry laws there. Have you considered relocation as an option?
 
Old 08-18-2018, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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Your story is incredibly hard to believe. All I can say is you need to talk to a professional about the situation.
 
Old 08-18-2018, 03:48 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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I have a problem I've been dealing with for some years now. It's that there are a lot of people walking around carrying guns. Sometimes people carry them concealed, sometimes openly with a holster. I personally don't like guns or own any guns, but evidently this is legal in Kentucky, so I accept that. However, my problem is that I keep running into people who are extremely irresponsible with their firearms. What I have noticed is that most of the people who do this tend to be women or small, relatively weak men, while they span all age groups.

I'm in my thirties, and I think the first experience I had with this when I was in high school. While walking into the front entrance to the school, I noticed a middle-aged woman coming in, and while she came up to me and confronted me, she revealed that she had a handgun in her possession. I asked her if she had lost her mind, bringing a handgun into a school campus. She resisted my objections but soon after, another adult came along and told her to leave. In more recent times, I have noticed this happening a lot more. I've had times where people will brandish their guns at me for their own amusement. I have had multiple experiences where someone draws their gun at me, and I genuinely feel that they were trying to kill me, and I've had to fight them and beat them up. On a few occasions, someone has pulled a gun on me and I have disarmed them and confiscated the gun; I wasn't sure what to do with the gun, so I would usually throw it on the roof of a building so that the person couldn't get it back easily, or if a lake was nearby, I would throw it in the lake. There have even been times when a person has pulled a gun and tried to shoot me outright, but a good Samaritan would come along at just the right moment to restrain the person and stop them from shooting me. Other times a person has pulled a gun on me and prepared to fire, but stop themselves, evidently from a crisis of conscience. At times, I have had to hit people with blunt objects, stab people with knives, throw people off balconies, etc., just to prevent them from shooting me with their guns. Often when they would try to hold me at gunpoint, I would firmly ask them to let go of the gun, and if they said no then I would often apply a quick armlock and break their arm, after which they would typically drop the gun. Once, I was sitting in a bus station or waiting room or something, and I was sitting next to my mother. Across from me, I noticed a woman was pointing her gun at me and casually threatening me with it. Not only did I object to her threatening me but I also strongly objected to her pointing a gun in the direction of my mother as well, who at the time was preoccupied and oblivious to what the woman was doing. I got up and casually walked up to her and asked her to stop pointing her gun at me; she refused and then I grabbed her hand and broke one of her fingers.

I can remember times in which I would scuffle with a gun-wielding person, and in the process the gunman would unwittingly point the gun at bystanders, who then would yell in protest or take cover. Sometimes, the gunman would accidentally point the gun at a small child, after which the child's mother would desperately grab her child and turn around to shield the child with her body. I remember once, a guy threatened me with a gun and I disarmed him and began to reprimand him for what he did. And then as I was doing this, a gun-carrying woman comes along and demands at gunpoint that I leave him alone. I then grab the guy with one arm and point the gun I confiscated to his head, using him as a human shield and demanding the woman to put the gun away. The guy I was using as a human shield also yelled at her to put the gun away, as she was only exacerbating the situation. I remember once, I scuffled with a woman to take her gun away, and she ended up lying on the floor with the gun just slightly out of her reach. I held a knife and warned her not to go for the gun, but she went for it anyway and I stabbed her in the arm. She recoiled in pain but then went for it again, so I stabbed her again, and this happened several more times before she gave up. I remember one time, I was in a public place and I was making out with some girl, and a guy walked up and, evidently out of jealousy, instinctively pointed his gun at me. One time, I was somewhere and I saw some kind of trinket lying on the floor; I kneeled down to pick it up and then right as I did this, a woman walked up and pointed her gun at me and stated that it was hers and demanded that I give it to her.

A few years ago, I used to live in an apartment where my landlord was a belligerent jerk. I would sometimes get into fistfights with him out in the yard; oftentimes as I did this, people would drive by in their cars, see me fighting him and then stop, get out of their cars and aim their gun at me, ready to fire. A neighbor across the street who would often sit on her front porch would often have to run up and restrain the person to stop them from shooting me. At this same apartment, there was another woman who lived nearby who didn't like me and, while I was minding my own business in the yard, would regularly confront me and threaten me with her gun. For example, I would be outside eating a grapefruit with a knife, and she would come along and start threatening me on the basis that I had a weapon, which of course made no sense, since she had a much deadlier weapon.

I could go on and on telling more stories about people threatening me with guns, but I think you get the picture. I am not anti-gun, per se. I think people should be allowed to own guns and even to carry guns around, but I think that the government requirements for obtaining gun permits should be more stringent, so that impulsive, irresponsible knuckleheads won't be able to get them. Also, I think there should be harsher punishments for people who abuse their guns or who carry guns without a permit (as many of the people who have threatened me with a gun didn't even have a permit at the time). Has anyone else had this kind of problem? What can I do to put a stop to this problem of untrained and irresponsible people carrying guns around?
Oh, really?

Hallucinating, delusional or paranoid schizophrenic. Y'all take your pick. Although the first two are typical symptoms of the third.

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Old 08-18-2018, 04:00 PM
 
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Something ain't right because it don't make sense. If you're often being assaulted you need to call the police each time you are assaulted and have it documented.
Sometimes I do call 911, but they usually don't do anything about it.
 
Old 08-18-2018, 04:02 PM
 
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^^^^Agree with this advice--the incidents you are describing amount to either assault or brandishing a weapon so you need to call the police and make a report!

OP, it sounds like you are going to continue having some difficulties living in your location due to your discomfort with the open-carry laws there. Have you considered relocation as an option?

No, I've never actually considered that.
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