Downtown Louisville?

[DreamKeeper]

Originally Posted by atlantagreg30127

By contrast, when passing through Louisville, I think I saw ONE person I would I.D. as a vagrant downtown.

You’ve got to joking! You really must have just been “passing through” Louisville. Downtown Louisville is filled with vagrants. I grew up in Louisville and worked in downtown Louisville for years and we used to have such a problem with homeless people that the building we worked in started having their security guards walk the women to their cars (and men if you requested it). You think the girl in the video you posted above is crazy, you should have seen the violent nut case in Louisville that used to accost us when we would leave work to walk to our cars or take a walk to get lunch someplace. He would get in your face (about 2 inches from your face to be exact) and start going off and yelling every obscenity in the book at you and then proceed to yell some gibberish that no one could ever understand. This happened on an almost daily basis and my employer repeatedly contacted the good old Louisville PD, of course they never did anything about it. My employer eventually ended up relocating their offices to the east end of Louisville and employee safety was one of the deciding factors for the decision to relocate. I would stay out of downtown Louisville at night unless you are able to park very close to where you’re going or have a group of people with you. Don’t walk around there at night by yourself.

I used to live down by St. James Court in Old Louisville (which is supposed to be one of the nicer areas to live close to downtown Louisville) and we constantly had our cars broken into. One day my girlfriend was walking from her car to the apartment that we lived in and she got jumped by a guy who proceeded to rip her purse out of her arms and then throw her to the ground. This happened in the middle of the day too. He took off running and she never saw her purse again. I had a friend who was jumped and beat up by a bunch of thugs in downtown Louisville for no reason. I could go on and on with the stuff I’ve seen in and around downtown Louisville. The east end of Louisville, while nowhere near as bad as downtown or the west end, is also not immune from crime and violence. I saw plenty of things happen in St. Matthews when I lived in that part of town.

I moved to Atlanta 4 years ago and will have to say that I have yet to be panhandled while riding Marta or while in downtown Atlanta. I recently had to do jury duty down at the Fulton County Courthouse and rode Marta everyday for 6 weeks. I never had one person approach me while on the train or while exiting/entering the five points area. I walked from five points to the courthouse everyday and then from the courthouse back to five points every evening and never had one person approach me. I’ve taken Marta many times at night to go down to Philips Arena for concerts and have never had anyone approach me or bother me in any way. I’m not saying that it never happens but to hear atlantagreg30127 talk about it you’d think this happened to everybody on a daily basis. Well, I’ve never seen nor experienced it. As a matter of fact I actually felt safer walking in downtown Atlanta by myself than I ever did walking around in downtown Louisville by myself. Oh and by the way atlantagreg30127, what does the photo you posted have to do with vagrants? The majority of the people in that photo are actually dressed very nice and look like their just hanging out reading and enjoying the park to me

As far as comparing the things to do and the nightlife of Louisville to other cities I’ll just put it this way, anyone who has ever lived in a “real city” would be bored out of their minds in Louisville within 2 to 3 weeks.

[emanresu]

I'm calling B.S. on this post ^^^. Either the poster has an ax to grind or is the crazy person he described. This is not supposed to be a contest between cities. And, obviously Atlanta does many things well at evidenced by its tremendous growth. But, crime is not one of them. The statistics speak for themselves. In fact, Atlanta had to under-report its crime stats in order to get the Olympics. So, while the poster describes Louisville as the next Gary, IN, and talks of Atlanta as if it's Celebration, FL, I'm calling him out on it. That is not reality.

[cobolt]

Logic would dictate that the larger a city, the more crime. I don't care how you slice it. It pretty much comes down to that. Speaking from logic and personal experience, I have a real hard time believing the VIlle is the next Gary IN and Atlanta is Celebration, FL. Watch the local news in either city and you'll get the drift. It's a no brainer.

[stx12499]

I doubt he even lived in Louisville. He says he lived in Jersey in another post. I am always highly skeptical of someone who makes crazy claims in their first five posts.

[missymomof3]

My mother during most of my early childhood years worked at the Main library. There were plenty of homeless people who frequented there but she was never afraid for her life. I don't believe for a second Dreamkeeper is legitimate at all.

[cobolt]

Originally Posted by missymomof3

My mother during most of my early childhood years worked at the Main library. There were plenty of homeless people who frequented there but she was never afraid for her life. I don't believe for a second Dreamkeeper is legitimate at all.

I hear ya. A few years ago I too worked at a main downtown library branch in a "city" of 170K people. Lots of vagrants and homeless people would hang out there. We had a "do not place your sleeping bags/backpacks in the corridor" sign. I saw alot of weird stuff that just goes hand in hand with the whole homeless arena, including a bum washing his socks in the public bathroom sink but I never felt unsafe.

[DreamKeeper]

Originally Posted by stx12499

I doubt he even lived in Louisville. He says he lived in Jersey in another post. I am always highly skeptical of someone who makes crazy claims in their first five posts.

In which of my previous posts have I made crazy claims? The fact that I stated I lived in New Jersey once makes my posts crazy? God forbid someone ever leave the “The Ville”. I know some of my backwards brothers and sisters from “The Ville” don’t realize it but there is a whole exciting world out there beyond podunk Louisville. And it is ok to actually move away from Louisville, we're allowed to do that in this country.

Also, I never said there was no crime in Atlanta. Like all big cities in this country there is a lot of crime in Atlanta, my point is that I have yet to experience what atlantagreg30127 states is a normal everyday occurrence. That doesn’t mean it never happens but in my personal experience I haven’t had it happen to me. On the other hand I have experienced just that sort of thing in “The Ville” which is why I pointed it out so that some un-expecting person doesn’t go to downtown Louisville thinking there is no crime when there is in fact plenty of crime there. But, I guess me and my approx 40 other co-workers were just delusional and never had homeless people begging from us or a nut that used to accost us almost daily. I guess it was all in our heads.

Not that I should have to explain it because it’s a perfectly normal thing to move around the country but this is how I ended up in New Jersey:

I was born at the old St Anthony’s Hospital off of Barret Ave (which I believe is now Kindred Hospital, at least that’s what it was last time I went by there). I lived in Louisville until I was about 10 years old then my father’s job relocated us to Detroit for about a year, then he was relocated to Indianapolis for almost 2 years and then he was relocated back to Louisville and at that time I was 13. I graduated from Male High School and decided I wanted to explore the world beyond Podunk so I went off to college at Ramapo College in Mahwah, New Jersey. I went there for 4 years and graduated, then stayed in New Jersey for one more year after that because I absolutely loved living up there.

While up in New Jersey I got an awesome job offer that I couldn’t refuse and relocated to South Florida. I lived there for 3 years then had an opportunity to transfer to Denver, CO so I did. I was in Denver for about 2 years and then had a family health emergency which led me to move back to “The Ville”. I was back in Louisville for approx 8 years, approx 3.5 years of which I worked downtown. Our offices were located off of Chestnut St and we would walk down to the then Galleria (before it was 4th Street Live) to eat lunch on a regular basis. For 2 years I lived off of St James Ct, for the remaining years I lived in St Matthews in one location down the street from Baptist East and later at a different location off of Canons Lane close to Seneca Park where I would regularly jog around the track. I used to frequent Phoenix Hill Tavern and also Jim Porter’s to a lesser degree. I also would occasionally go to O’Malley’s Corner although that wasn’t really my scene.

Anything else you want to know?

[emanresu]

Wow! Can you tell me how to move so I can be cultured and sophisticated like you? It's just not fair. You see, I don't want to live here because it clearly has no culture. I believe you refer to it as "Podunk". How creative. You must have learned about that in your worldly travels. Or, maybe you picked it up at such cultural institution as Jim Porters. But, you have seemed to break free. How exciting. I don't want to be relegated to a life of dealing with screaming vagrants when I can move around and find such vibrant and clean urban areas such as Atlanta. I mean, I've only been downtown every day for 4 years, so maybe these roaming vagrants haven't found me yet. But, as soon as they do, I'm going to move to less Podunk and more cosmopolitan area and try to find the culture like you.

[stx12499]

Originally Posted by DreamKeeper

In which of my previous posts have I made crazy claims? The fact that I stated I lived in New Jersey once makes my posts crazy? God forbid someone ever leave the “The Ville”. I know some of my backwards brothers and sisters from “The Ville” don’t realize it but there is a whole exciting world out there beyond podunk Louisville. And it is ok to actually move away from Louisville, we're allowed to do that in this country.

Also, I never said there was no crime in Atlanta. Like all big cities in this country there is a lot of crime in Atlanta, my point is that I have yet to experience what atlantagreg30127 states is a normal everyday occurrence. That doesn’t mean it never happens but in my personal experience I haven’t had it happen to me. On the other hand I have experienced just that sort of thing in “The Ville” which is why I pointed it out so that some un-expecting person doesn’t go to downtown Louisville thinking there is no crime when there is in fact plenty of crime there. But, I guess me and my approx 40 other co-workers were just delusional and never had homeless people begging from us or a nut that used to accost us almost daily. I guess it was all in our heads.

Not that I should have to explain it because it’s a perfectly normal thing to move around the country but this is how I ended up in New Jersey:

I was born at the old St Anthony’s Hospital off of Barret Ave (which I believe is now Kindred Hospital, at least that’s what it was last time I went by there). I lived in Louisville until I was about 10 years old then my father’s job relocated us to Detroit for about a year, then he was relocated to Indianapolis for almost 2 years and then he was relocated back to Louisville and at that time I was 13. I graduated from Male High School and decided I wanted to explore the world beyond Podunk so I went off to college at Ramapo College in Mahwah, New Jersey. I went there for 4 years and graduated, then stayed in New Jersey for one more year after that because I absolutely loved living up there.

While up in New Jersey I got an awesome job offer that I couldn’t refuse and relocated to South Florida. I lived there for 3 years then had an opportunity to transfer to Denver, CO so I did. I was in Denver for about 2 years and then had a family health emergency which led me to move back to “The Ville”. I was back in Louisville for approx 8 years, approx 3.5 years of which I worked downtown. Our offices were located off of Chestnut St and we would walk down to the then Galleria (before it was 4th Street Live) to eat lunch on a regular basis. For 2 years I lived off of St James Ct, for the remaining years I lived in St Matthews in one location down the street from Baptist East and later at a different location off of Canons Lane close to Seneca Park where I would regularly jog around the track. I used to frequent Phoenix Hill Tavern and also Jim Porter’s to a lesser degree. I also would occasionally go to O’Malley’s Corner although that wasn’t really my scene.

Anything else you want to know?

I do appreciate your sarcasm but name dropping doesn't prove anything. By the way, every city has places like Jim Porter's and Phoenix Hill, and let me tell you these are NOT cultural institutions. Also, I am a transplant to Louisville who has lived in as many or possibly more cities than you. I have been here a few years now and natives have told be it has changed a ton in the last five years. Anyways, your stereotypes and sarcastic nature of calling people podunk is not gaining you much credibility in your first few posts....

[rpb502]

Originally Posted by cobolt

Logic would dictate that the larger a city, the more crime. I don't care how you slice it. It pretty much comes down to that. Speaking from logic and personal experience, I have a real hard time believing the VIlle is the next Gary IN and Atlanta is Celebration, FL. Watch the local news in either city and you'll get the drift. It's a no brainer.

St. Louis and Detroit are the 2 most dangerous cities in the U.S.

Chicago, L.A., NYC, Houston....all much larger cities...but less crime.

Some logic....

How is Louisville not a "real city"? Id love to hear your "logic" on that...

When I drive downtown everyday I see skyscrapers, people, retail, restaurants, etc. What do "real cities" have? Id love to find out.

Louisville is a city on the rise. Anybody that says otherwise has an agenda.