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Old 11-30-2008, 12:13 PM
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While it is true that 6 Blacks and 1 Hispanic dead it is all on one side of town. There are as many Blacks in the Newburg/ Buechel/ Fern Creek area as the West End and there has been maybe 3 murders there this year. The apartment complex I lived at in Lyndon was probably 30% Hispanic and 10% Black and it was as safe and quite as could be.
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:20 PM
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that is so right tomocox. as much as i'd like to see western louisville cleaned up, i just don't think it is ever going to happen.
The bottom line is the poorest people live on the poorest land whether it is in West Louisville or West India. The West End is the most flood prone and has 2 coal fired power plants and a large rubber factory filling its air with toxins - it is clearly the worst place to live in the entire Metro area and probably always will be.

The Highlands and Crescent Hill will always be flood free and has less pollution problems, as the largest particles stay at the lowest altitide - I doubt those areas will ever become low income
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Old 11-30-2008, 01:27 PM
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Compared to Washington DC and the subrubs, Louisville has a relatively minor gang problem. We here in DC have had multiple weekends where 7 or more people have gotten killed in different sections (even non-ghetto ones) of DC proper this year. DC also has a very large MS-13 presence, which i dont hear a lot about in everything i read about in Louisville.

Like ya'll i hope this does not become the norm for my future home of Louisville.
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Old 11-30-2008, 01:58 PM
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According to this article WAVE 3 TV Louisville, KY | Thanksgiving week marred by murders Louisville is already up to 60 homicides this year, on pace to break last year's higher than usual 69 - there were 55 in 2006.

Some "good" news (well not really), Louisville is still way below:

Indianapolis (110 murders to date) Marion County Homicide List
Memphis has (164 murders LAST YEAR) Investigations
Jacksonville (127 murders to date) Jacksonville.com
Milwaukee (63 murders to date) Milwaukee Homicides: A Closer Look
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Catch 22: Young Black Men need jobs... Nobody will hire Young Black Men because of their criminal legacies. Criminal legacies result from lack of jobs.

When the government gets back into the protection of the people and not the defense of the thug business, we will see places such as those in the Churchill Downs area (not a flood zone) renew their value as good places to live.
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so the Churchill Downs area is a high crime area now? I think that used to be called Oakdale or something like that.

From what I recall it used to be somewhat redneck down that way, maybe moreso on Winkler and Taylor Blvd.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:35 PM
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so the Churchill Downs area is a high crime area now? I think that used to be called Oakdale or something like that.

From what I recall it used to be somewhat redneck down that way, maybe moreso on Winkler and Taylor Blvd.
Seems like the Old Louisville/ Churchill Downs area only has sporadic murders, nothing as concentrated as the problems in the West End

courier-journal.com » Jefferson County homicide database

Here's a breakdown by region

N of I-264, W of 7th Street: 26
E of 7th Street, W of Shelby Street, N of I-264: 10
S of I-264, W of I-65: 10
Along and NE of Bardstown Rd (East End): 7
E of I-65, W of Bardstown Rd, S of I-264: 3

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Considering that E of 7th, W of Shelby St, N of I-264 is hugely commercial/industrial/educational (UofL / Sullivan) and downtown, it would appear that 10 is a higher ratio than the western area. Censusdata, what's the population ratios?
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There was another murder - in Sunday's paper - 23 year old found dead in trunk of a car.
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Louisville is fairly safe for cities of similar size. Probably about average. Plus, these rates quoted don't apply to people who don't gang-bang, don't buy crack, and don't hang out at inner-city clubs. The vast majority of times a murder victim was doing something they shouldn't have been doing. While it doesn't excuse the murder, it is reassuring to those of us who don't partake in high-risk behaviors.
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