JCPS & other districts.. where do you think stimulus cash comes from?

[LouisvilleJake]

Actually, let me take back part of what I said.

As recently as the late 1990's Oldham County was actually a WELFARE county, receiving more money from Frankfort than it sent to it. Something to the tune of 30 million dollars.

Jefferson County alone sent 750 million dollars more to Frankfort than it received back in the late 1990's, and that numbered ballooned to a billion dollars in the later part of this decade.

http://monitor.louisville.edu/taxes/...ipt%20fy03.pdf

[tomocox]

Originally Posted by LouisvilleJake

Actually, let me take back part of what I said.

As recently as the late 1990's Oldham County was actually a WELFARE county, receiving more money from Frankfort than it sent to it. Something to the tune of 30 million dollars.

Jefferson County alone sent 750 million dollars more to Frankfort than it received back in the late 1990's, and that numbered ballooned to a billion dollars in the later part of this decade.

http://monitor.louisville.edu/taxes/...ipt%20fy03.pdf

So, which way do you want to play? Stimulus money from China? Stimulus money from donor districts? Seems to me you would like to choose the flavor of your poison. Shall it be gu, or cyanide?

Bottom line, either way, this financial crisis was the result of bad banking, so we fix it by more bad banking?

Regarding my precious Oldham County Schools, if you had been eating at a favorite restaurant for years, then you discovered a much better restaurant, would you not want to tell your friends? Well, I had a daughter in JCPS (advanced at Highland then Waggener while it was still a good school), then I had the opportunity to help raise a child in Oldham Co. So, if experience means anything, I have been there. What about you? If you haven't, that is fine, just don't be critical of me, unless you know the same facts that I have discovered.

[LouisvilleJake]

So which is it? Is this a discussion of JCPS funding? Or is this your way to ranting about Democrats, the stimulus, and "bad banking"?

All money from the Reinvestment and Recovery Act, aka the stimulus, will either come from a) foreign nations (mainly China) that send us their cash for our Treasuries or b) newly printed money from Washington. There will be no donor districts for any money that comes from the stimulus act. Stimulus money will not be replacing any school budgets, it is just an addition to what the school districts already get. Oldham County school will also get some money. So will just about everyone else. If you want to talk about the merits of the stimulus plan as a whole then you need to take it to the politics section and crow about it over there.

In your posts you've implied things such as 1) Jefferson County is a poor school district; 2) Jefferson County takes in more tax revenue than it sends out; 3) that Jefferson County teachers are not as good and hard-working as rural districts.

JCPS is hardly a poor school district. If it were the state would send it more money, but currently as it is, the state sends JCPS about 3,070$ per pupil. You know how much the state sends Oldham County per pupil? 3,335$ Just for reference, there are 176 school districts in Kentucky and JCPS is ranked 168th in per pupil spending. You know how much Kentucky sends to 1st ranked Cloverport Independent Schools? 6,873$ WHY IS JEFFERSON COUNTY SUBSIDIZING THIS?!?

You've implied that urban areas suck up more tax dollars than generate. The link in my prior post so soundly refutes your beliefs that it doesn't even deserve a reply. If you have some actual numbers from a legitimate source, I would like you to post the link.

You've also implied that JCPS teachers are not as good as hard-working rural educators despite that fact that teachers in JCPS have a higher number and higher rate of teachers with advanced credentials than nearly every other district in the state.

Have I ever lived in Oldham County? No, I haven't. My fathers fiance lives in Oldham County so I know the area well, but I never have lived there. But I can tell you this: Oldham County is no different than any other upper-middle class suburban county in America. There is nothing that is so unique to Oldham County that it stands out in peoples minds.

[tomocox]

Originally Posted by LouisvilleJake

In your posts you've implied things such as 1) Jefferson County is a poor school district; 2) Jefferson County takes in more tax revenue than it sends out; 3) that Jefferson County teachers are not as good and hard-working as rural districts.

You've implied that urban areas suck up more tax dollars than generate. The link in my prior post so soundly refutes your beliefs that it doesn't even deserve a reply. If you have some actual numbers from a legitimate source, I would like you to post the link.

You've also implied that JCPS teachers are not as good as hard-working rural educators despite that fact that teachers in JCPS have a higher number and higher rate of teachers with advanced credentials than nearly every other district in the state.

Have I ever lived in Oldham County? No, I haven't. My fathers fiance lives in Oldham County so I know the area well, but I never have lived there. But I can tell you this: Oldham County is no different than any other upper-middle class suburban county in America. There is nothing that is so unique to Oldham County that it stands out in peoples minds.

What is wrong with your eyes? Never, no, not once have I suggested that JCPS teachers are inferior to any school district, Oldham or otherwise. Matter of fact, I have praised JCPS teachers for doing yeoman's work in the face of so many obstacles.

I have never implied that Jefferson County was any thing but a donor district, with the exception of the stimulus money.

I don't imply anything! If you read my words, you see what I wrote nothing more, nothing less.

Regarding presidential politics, this is not a proper place to discuss those issues, and out of respect to all involved, I will not go there.

[LouisvilleJake]

You said:

Or maybe, it could come from hundreds of rural counties that are doing a good job of teaching without great influxes of federal dollars.

Your implication is that JCPS teachers cannot teach as well as rural teachers without this stimulus money!

Regarding presidential politics, this is not a proper place to discuss those issues, and out of respect to all involved, I will not go there.

Of course this isn't the place, but when you inject words like Obama and socialism into a conversation, it's hard to see how you actually believe what you just wrote.