Relocating to Louisville (Covington, Frankfort, St. Matthews: rental, condo, crime)

[tomocox]

Originally Posted by stx12499

Tom is a valued poster, however it does seem he is constantly pushing people with children towards Oldham. Many realtors do this, and they push people to edge counties all over the country. When I moved to FL, I had two realtors trying to convince me of edge countie stating the urban counties in Fl are too ghetto. The same happened to me in IL, IN, GA, and WA. I have moved too much


As described, those REALTORS are in significant violation of FEDERAL and STATE LAW, its called "Steering" as it points people to or from an area based on race, religion, etc. I find the writer's near accusation of possible illegal activity on my part just a bit offensive.

In defense of my preferences regarding Oldham County for families with children, can you guarantee that by living anywhere in Jefferson County, your children will go to the address's home school? The 600 plus rejected appeals for reconsideration of JCPS assignment, plus the many, many posts of this forum should serve as evidence.


There CAN be an excellent education had in Jefferson County, especially at Anchorage and the catholic/private schools which are infinitely better than Oldham.


If a parent has $7-15,000 extra per year for cost of living in Anchorage or sending child to a catholic/private school (per child in the latter), then you might add some validity to this point.

Also, as I have stated time again, the top rated JCPS schools are better than those in Oldham, however they are difficult to get into, and busing is an issue for some but NOT all families. It is worth looking at however, and it is important to know every coin has a tail and a heads. Buyers should view all areas and form educated opinions for themselves, not blindly choose heads.

I guarantee that if I could cherry pick students in downtown Watts, Miami, or even Newark, I could have one the best public schools in the state, maybe even the nation. The whole story must include the odds of a newcomer enrolling their child in one of the "top" schools. Can't you just imagine the outcry if a new resident moves from "there" to "here" and their child simply gets "lucky" and breaks the line to get into one of the three best schools with a long waiting list?

My firm sells more homes in Jefferson County than anywhere. I don't care where a home is located. What I do care about is that JCPS could be a truly great school system; however, the politics of race, destroys nearly all such opportunity. Since 1975, literally millions of taxpayer dollars have been wasted on rubber, diesel fuel, and driver wages instead of bricks, mortar, libraries, teacher and educational assistant's salaries. An educational assistant (teacher's aide) is paid less than a school bus driver in JCPS, and I assure you the education a child gets on the back of a school bus is not the same Read'n, Rit'n, & Rytmatic, that a classroom with a trained aide would be working with one of JCPS's many great professional teachers receives.

I don't believe anyone who genuinely cares about children will want to debate this situation with me. I promise you that I totally agree with STX there is no, absolutely no excuse that while JCPS has three of Kentucky's top 20 high schools (all Oldham County schools are top 20), I won't mention the names of the six JCPS schools that are the cabooses of the state's entire list of schools.

[missymomof3]

Originally Posted by tomocox

I guarantee that if I could cherry pick students in downtown Watts, Miami, or even Newark, I could have one the best public schools in the state, maybe even the nation. The whole story must include the odds of a newcomer enrolling their child in one of the "top" schools. Can't you just imagine the outcry if a new resident moves from "there" to "here" and their child simply gets "lucky" and breaks the line to get into one of the three best schools with a long waiting list?

My firm sells more homes in Jefferson County than anywhere. I don't care where a home is located. What I do care about is that JCPS could be a truly great school system; however, the politics of race, destroys nearly all such opportunity. Since 1975, literally millions of taxpayer dollars have been wasted on rubber, diesel fuel, and driver wages instead of bricks, mortar, libraries, teacher and educational assistant's salaries. An educational assistant (teacher's aide) is paid less than a school bus driver in JCPS, and I assure you the education a child gets on the back of a school bus is not the same Read'n, Rit'n, & Rytmatic, that a classroom with a trained aide would be working with one of JCPS's many great professional teachers receives.

I don't believe anyone who genuinely cares about children will want to debate this situation with me. I promise you that I totally agree with STX there is no, absolutely no excuse that while JCPS has three of Kentucky's top 20 high schools (all Oldham County schools are top 20), I won't mention the names of the six JCPS schools that are the cabooses of the state's entire list of schools.

I'll name one... Western. I went to Male and then went to Western (stupid teen girl following her boyfriend) and the difference was night and day. Male was very disciplined and you were basically outcast if you were disrespectful to teachers, Western was the complete opposite. I hope hope hope for the sake of kids there now that it has VASTLY improved.

[Cattknap]

I am not a fan of bussing - our youngest son was bussed to the inner city for junior and high schools in Long Beach, CA where my husband and I lived and raised our family. Last year we retired to Louisville.

All of our children attended public school in Long Beach and all are successful. Long Beach schools are not highly rated. However, my husband and I were supportive and involved in our children's scholastic and extra-curricular endeavors.

Our youngest son was bussed across town to undesirable areas of Long Beach where his campuses were locked down and police were usually present. The junior high and high schools he attended were in racially mixed, very high crime areas where some of the poorest of Long Beach lived- but that is where the special programs were located that our son wanted to attend.

Our son graduated magna c u m - laude from UCLA, went to a prestigious private law school in San Jose, California, graduated last year in the top 20% of his class, passed the California bar last July and is now a JAG officer in the Navy, practicing law in Japan (he speaks fluent Japanese). He is a product of public schools and busing.

Busing was inconvient, required our son to spend lots of time on the bus being driven across town and a scary proposition for my husband and me because of the location of the schools. However, all the negatives of busing did not prevent our son from getting a good education or going on to a successful career.

[tomocox]

Originally Posted by Cattknap

I am not a fan of bussing - our youngest son was bussed to the inner city for junior and high schools in Long Beach, CA where my husband and I lived and raised our family. Last year we retired to Louisville.

All of our children attended public school in Long Beach and all are successful. Long Beach schools are not highly rated. However, my husband and I were supportive and involved in our children's scholastic and extra-curricular endeavors.

Our youngest son was bussed across town to undesirable areas of Long Beach where his campuses were locked down and police were usually present. The junior high and high schools he attended were in racially mixed, very high crime areas where some of the poorest of Long Beach lived- but that is where the special programs were located that our son wanted to attend.

Our son graduated magna c u m - laude from UCLA, went to a prestigious private law school in San Jose, California, graduated last year in the top 20% of his class, passed the California bar last July and is now a JAG officer in the Navy, practicing law in Japan (he speaks fluent Japanese). He is a product of public schools and busing.

Busing was inconvient, required our son to spend lots of time on the bus being driven across town and a scary proposition for my husband and me because of the location of the schools. However, all the negatives of busing did not prevent our son from getting a good education or going on to a successful career.

An excellent post. The key line was "..all the negatives of busing did not prevent..." I wish all students could have the same results as your child.

[Cattknap]

Thank you Tom....I would not wish bussing on any parent or child, but we made it work.

[staywarm2]

Originally Posted by mdawg

Nevel Meade, the Oldham County section of Glenoaks, and Hunting Creek are all golf course neighborhoods and the price of these houses range from the 300s up to 1mil+. Also, they are all in Oldham County, but not too far away from amenities in Jefferson County.

I used to live in Hunting Creek and back then it was in Jefferson County. Has the county line changed? Nice sized lots and well built homes. I lived at the west end of the subdiv., near Fox Harbor subdivision, which is also very nice.

[staywarm2]

Originally Posted by amaynie

Hello everyone...my husband just accepted a fantastic job opportunity in Louisville and we would like to know more about where the good public schools are. Our daughter is 14 going high school (she is excited about the move) and is an honor student very active in sports and band. We have researched KY and it seems that Oldham County is similar to where we live now and have a great school district like here in Overland Park, Kansas (Blue Valley). We are looking for a home with a lot of bells and whistles, preferably a golf course property, with nearby grocers, shopping, restaurants, but we will be working with a relocation specialist to assist us in our move to help pinpoint what we are looking for exactly. We are trying to get a feel for what to expect from those who know KY pretty well. This site was very helpful when we moved to KS. We will visit soon to look for a house and want to know where the places are to see and/or visit. I know when we moved to Kansas 2 years ago, we were pleasantly surprised by it being such a beautiful place to live. Driving is not a problem as for we are originally from Michigan and driving a distance is so normal in larger cities, we are used to that.
Any suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciated. We are excited about the move and look forward to our visit to KY.

Thank you for your help!

Have you checked out the website www.greatschools.net? You might get some good insight on it. I believe parents can post their opinions there, just like on the city-data.

[Cattknap]

Originally Posted by staywarm2

I used to live in Hunting Creek and back then it was in Jefferson County. Has the county line changed? Nice sized lots and well built homes. I lived at the west end of the subdiv., near Fox Harbor subdivision, which is also very nice.

I believe Hunting Creek is all Jefferson County (not completely sure) but the Estate section has homes located in both Oldham and Jefferson counties. Hunting Creek homes are older than those in the Estate section.

[trailrjack]

WOW ,,,what a place this is ,,,I have been thinking about moving down to the Louisville area for sometime now,,,would like to start a small farm of some kind ,,will be down there the last week of July and the first week in August so will be looking ,,,maybe hooking up with one of you real estate people then,,,, have fun ,, IN GOD WE TRUST

[mdawg]

Originally Posted by Cattknap

I believe Hunting Creek is all Jefferson County (not completely sure) but the Estate section has homes located in both Oldham and Jefferson counties. Hunting Creek homes are older than those in the Estate section.

Now that I think about it I'm not sure all of Hunting Creek is in Oldham, I was thinking about the Estates section which is the only part I have been in.