Which is a better choice, Indianapolis or Louisville, KY? (Bardstown: crimes, homes)
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The numbers show that greater Indianapolis is clearly the more densely populated city
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Are you serious? Indy has almost no functioning neighborhoods, while Louisville has many. If you live in an of Indy's so-called densely populated areas, you're taking your life in your hands. Indy spends billions of tax dollars on their Downtown, completely neglecting every other area of the city. As a result, you have the sterile downtown, ringed by urban wasteland 38 blocks to the North, to the county line East and West and 50 blocks to the South.
Indy, itself, is largely lost. In the metro area, Carmel and Zionsville are carrying the water for Indy's image.
I'll take Louisville's dense areas over Indy's, every time.
I don't know much about Louisville, but I always find these arguments about which city being better funny. Indy has grasped a sports image, yet at least one poster said sports doesn't count? Why doesn't it count? Is it because Louisville loses in this area?
Louisville beats Indy in sports, because Indy imposes a 2% Colts tax on all dining in downtown and a 1% Colts tax on all dining in Marion County and in every surrounding county, save Morgan.
Think of that. Every time you dine in Indy, they tack on 1 or 2% to hand to the Colts.
Are you serious? Indy has almost no functioning neighborhoods, while Louisville has many. If you live in an of Indy's so-called densely populated areas, you're taking your life in your hands. Indy spends billions of tax dollars on their Downtown, completely neglecting every other area of the city. As a result, you have the sterile downtown, ringed by urban wasteland 38 blocks to the North, to the county line East and West and 50 blocks to the South.
Indy, itself, is largely lost. In the metro area, Carmel and Zionsville are carrying the water for Indy's image.
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Look deep into yourself. If you're boring and you hate the idea of people having fun, you'll love Indy.
Look deep into yourself. If you're boring and you hate the idea of people having fun, you'll love Indy. If you're an open-minded person who doesn't judge others or try to tell them how to live, you'll love Louisville. If you think civic pride comes from sports teams, choose Indy. If you think civic pride comes from having some of the finest public parks in America, you're more Louisville. If your idea of a good Sunday is sitting around, all day, dressed in Colts gear, getting ready for the Colts game, then you're Indy. If you want to have a bad week if the Colts lose, you're Indy.
Look into yourself, and answer the question. Don't think that you'll like neat things just because they sound cool. A lot of people truly don't like such activities.
Louisville is a great city. It really is. However, your knocks on Indianapolis are non-sense. Indianapolis loves the Colts, but Louisville loves their Cards and Cats. In fact, I would say that the UK and UofL fans in Louisville are more rabid than any Colt fan in Indianapolis. I have had to read this:
Our father who art in Kentucky, let basketball be thy name. Seven banners won, the eight to come, in Rupp as it is big blue nation. Give us this day our defensive effort, and forgive us our turnovers as we forgive those who seeded against us. Lead us not into a shooting slump and deliver us from bad officiating. In the name of Rupp and Hall and the spirit of Bill Keightley. Amen.
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im gonna say 5 hail pitinos tonight
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Gooooo.....C-A-T-S, CATS CATS CATS!
From far too many of my facebook friends in Louisville over the past 12 hours. Anyone from Louisville knocking Indy's love of the Colts, because Louisville is somehow to cool for sports, is blind.
Also, spare me the idea that Indianapolis is an urban wasteland outside of its downtown. For every block of The Highlands in Louisville, there is an area like Okolona and the West End. Indianapolis has plenty of wasteland, it also has plenty of improved urban areas.
From far too many of my facebook friends in Louisville over the past 12 hours. Anyone from Louisville knocking Indy's love of the Colts, because Louisville is somehow to cool for sports, is blind.
In Louisville, they don't force people at work to dress in red on Friday if a UL game is scheduled for that weekend.
In Louisville, they don't expect you to act somber if UL loses. Louisville doesn't shut down if UL is playing.
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Also, spare me the idea that Indianapolis is an urban wasteland outside of its downtown. For every block of The Highlands in Louisville, there is an area like Okolona and the West End. Indianapolis has plenty of wasteland, it also has plenty of improved urban areas.
Outside of Broad Ripple, Indy has no "improved area" that isn't an island, ringed by very scary wasteland. That stuff on Delaware is one block from wasteland, and a lot of it went right back on the market after the initial sales, because the reality of living there was a lot scarier than the idea of being an urban pioneer. Lockerbie abuts wasteland. The East Side is a war zone, all the way to the county line, 90 blocks out. A couple of blocks in Irvington sort-of look nice, but don't stray too far from your stoop, and your grocery stores are going to be straight-up scary. The West Side is all wasteland to the county line. The South Side down to 5000 south is all wasteland. They've been trying to bring back Fountain Square for 40 years, but it isn't close to happening, and there was a murder on the Square, just this weekend.
Everything that matters in Indy is found in a triangle, the points of which are: 52nd and Meridian, Zionsville and Fishers. The farther one deviates from the area of that triangle, the scarier Indy is going to get.
Indy doesn't have a lot of good areas, and Louisville's "bad areas" look a lot better than Indy's.
P.S. your Louisville friends should really be celebrating Bellarmine's Division II National Championship. I'm not sure Bellarmine wouldn't have made it a few rounds into the Div I Championship. They play smart, and they shoot very well.
In Louisville, they don't force people at work to dress in red on Friday if a UL game is scheduled for that weekend.
In Louisville, they don't expect you to act somber if UL loses. Louisville doesn't shut down if UL is playing.
Indianapolis has Blue Friday. So what? A lot of other cities have similar things for their teams. That is not an idea exclusive to Indianapolis.
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Outside of Broad Ripple, Indy has no "improved area" that isn't an island, ringed by very scary wasteland. That stuff on Delaware is one block from wasteland, and a lot of it went right back on the market after the initial sales, because the reality of living there was a lot scarier than the idea of being an urban pioneer. Lockerbie abuts wasteland. The East Side is a war zone, all the way to the county line, 90 blocks out. A couple of blocks in Irvington sort-of look nice, but don't stray too far from your stoop, and your grocery stores are going to be straight-up scary. The West Side is all wasteland to the county line. The South Side down to 5000 south is all wasteland. They've been trying to bring back Fountain Square for 40 years, but it isn't close to happening, and there was a murder on the Square, just this weekend.
Everything that matters in Indy is found in a triangle, the points of which are: 52nd and Meridian, Zionsville and Fishers. The farther one deviates from the area of that triangle, the scarier Indy is going to get.
What wasteland do you think Lockerbie abuts? Old Northside? Cottage Home? Windsor Park?
"The stuff on Delaware." I assume you are referring to Fall Creek Place. I am not sure where you are getting your info, but that area has expanded, not imploded. There is a nice business node developing at 25th and Delaware and over along Meridian close to 22nd. It is not all there yet, but it's getting closer.
The east side is more than Irvington. Little Flower and Emerson Heights are nice areas. Warren Park is nice, albeit quiet and more suburban. Community Heights is getting its act together, as is Otterbein. I am sorry you find the grocery stores on the east side scary.
Fountain Square is coming back. I don't know what to say about the homicide, other than it is unfortunate that stuff like that happens. Wasn't there a homicide in Old Louisville last October? I know there was one last summer:
Do urban areas that are coming back run into problems? Yes. Does that mean people should give up on places like Old Louisville and Fountain Square? Absolutely not.
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Originally Posted by GregHenry
P.S. your Louisville friends should really be celebrating Bellarmine's Division II National Championship. I'm not sure Bellarmine wouldn't have made it a few rounds into the Div I Championship. They play smart, and they shoot very well.
I was in Louisville Saturday at Impellizzeri’s Pizza on Bardstown Road. When Bellarmine won, the place erupted. Strange a city that you paint as too cool for sports would go nuts over a basketball game.
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Indianapolis has Blue Friday. So what? A lot of other cities have similar things for their teams. That is not an idea exclusive to Indianapolis.
I have never seen a city where so many of the locals dress in team colors, every week, for a regular-season game. Maybe you can show me where this ritual is practiced in NYC, Chicago, Miami, San Francisco or D.C.?
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What wasteland do you think Lockerbie abuts? Old Northside? Cottage Home? Windsor Park?
"The stuff on Delaware." I assume you are referring to Fall Creek Place. I am not sure where you are getting your info, but that area has expanded, not imploded. There is a nice business node developing at 25th and Delaware and over along Meridian close to 22nd. It is not all there yet, but it's getting closer.
Basically, you're just making stuff up to prop up your claim to people who have no desire to drive 110 miles to check your facts.
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The east side is more than Irvington. Little Flower and Emerson Heights are nice areas. Warren Park is nice, albeit quiet and more suburban. Community Heights is getting its act together, as is Otterbein. I am sorry you find the grocery stores on the east side scary.
"Emerson Heights?" What? I've driven up and down Emerson, a ton. I never saw any "heights" on it. It looks just like an ordinary Indy street that has some real scary areas on it and near it. Emerson is kinda, maybe, on a good day not a war zone where it ends, at 56th Street, but that's about the best that can be said for it. That intersection past its prime in the late 60's.
Quit trying to throw neighborhood names around like Indy has any. Most of those places you named don't even look like distinguishable neighborhoods. What, did someone find a map from the 20's and bring back the old names to make Indy try to sound like something it isn't?
Indy has one real neighborhood that anyone in Cincy or Louisville would point at and say "hey, there's a neighborhood," and that neighborhood isn't close to being as good as the best found in those two cities.
I have never seen a city where so many of the locals dress in team colors, every week, for a regular-season game. Maybe you can show me where this ritual is practiced in NYC, Chicago, Miami, San Francisco or D.C.?
Basically, you're just making stuff up to prop up your claim to people who have no desire to drive 110 miles to check your facts.
"Emerson Heights?" What? I've driven up and down Emerson, a ton. I never saw any "heights" on it. It looks just like an ordinary Indy street that has some real scary areas on it and near it. Emerson is kinda, maybe, on a good day not a war zone where it ends, at 56th Street, but that's about the best that can be said for it. That intersection past its prime in the late 60's.
Quit trying to throw neighborhood names around like Indy has any. Most of those places you named don't even look like distinguishable neighborhoods. What, did someone find a map from the 20's and bring back the old names to make Indy try to sound like something it isn't?
Indy has one real neighborhood that anyone in Cincy or Louisville would point at and say "hey, there's a neighborhood," and that neighborhood isn't close to being as good as the best found in those two cities.
To what? It wasn't much, in the first place.
So, folks in Indy are to be ridiculed for fiercely supporting the Colts? Makes me wonder if your a Bengals fan who's ticked off that the Colts have made inroads among Louisville fans who might've once supported what's now become an NFL punch line just up I-71.
More likely, though, is that you're just another person jealous that Indy's name and prominence have risen while Louisville, other than for the Derby and a few My Morning Jacket fans, is largely unknown. So, you grasp for reasons to tear Indy down. Whatever. Fortunately, I know that most in Louisville are better than that.
So, folks in Indy are to be ridiculed for fiercely supporting the Colts? Makes me wonder if your a Bengals fan who's ticked off that the Colts have made inroads among Louisville fans who might've once supported what's now become an NFL punch line just up I-71.
Really? This is how you think? You're truly this juvenile?
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More likely, though, is that you're just another person jealous that Indy's name and prominence have risen.
Where? What prominence? At best, Indy is only as well known as Louisville, not more.
By the way, at least the Bengals and their fans are men enough to play outside. Both teams, however, are huge tax drains. At least Cincy is large enough to credibly have an NFL team. Indy only keeps a team by buying it.
This is how you think? You're truly this juvenile?
No, I just thought I'd stoop down to your level for awhile to see what it was like.
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