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Old 11-09-2009, 06:55 PM
 
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Generally, would you racial tensions in the city are more/less/about the same as most other places? Would you say Louisville is more progressive racially than other southern cities? Is the city reasonably integrated? I saw a thread from a while back that said people were pretty laid-back about interracial relationships, do you agree?
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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Louisville has always had a reputation for racial tolerance, at least, relatively speaking. We had a very rough patch in the late 70's (?) when busing come in, but overall, I think we rate pretty well in racial relationships.
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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There is no trouble between educated people, no matter what their color, nationality, or race. Educated means people willing to see that by acting as American's rather than hypenated-Americans, we all benefit. The uneducated of all races create problems. Generally more for their own race than the races they dislike. Most Kentuckians are learning this lesson with each day.
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:18 AM
 
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Educated means people willing to see that by acting as American's rather than hypenated-Americans, we all benefit.
You're suggesting that instead of acting as hyphenated-Americans we should act as apostrophenated-Americans??

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
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Old 11-12-2009, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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You're suggesting that instead of acting as hyphenated-Americans we should act as apostrophenated-Americans??

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Gave you a rep! Love a good laugh even at my expense! Apostrophenated-Americans makes as much sense to me as hyphenated-Americans!

So long as race baiters such a Jesse, Al, (those two TV preachers) and David (the super-neck from Louisiana) exist, there will be division in America. So long as there are blames for failure to achieve in America, instead of personal responsibility, there will be racism.
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:00 PM
 
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Why did Kentucky swing more to the GOP than most other states in 2008?

Wasnt cause Osama was black now was it lol
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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Why did Kentucky swing more to the GOP than most other states in 2008?

Wasnt cause Osama was black now was it lol
Yeah, that's something that has bothered me since then. Not only did Obama lose the Kentucky primary at a time when the nomination was decided (Hillary beat him more than two-to-one, and you can't tell me she was that popular in Kentucky), and not only did he lose the general election pretty bad in Kentucky, but he actually lost worse than Mitch McConnell's white Democratic opponent did. That's very telling.

In other words, at a time when a Democratic candidate was winning nationally by almost an electoral landslide and at a time the Democrats were sweeping the elections, Obama ran almost as bad in Kentucky as did John Kerry in the previous election running against an incumbent President. Moreover, Obama also ran worse in Kentucky against his white opponent than did the white opponent of McConnell, and McConnell was the incumbent with a ton of political power. McConnell is just about as sure a thing as there is in Kentucky politics. McConnell, the popular incumbent and leader of his party had a closer race against the white Democrat than did the unpopular non-incumbent McCain running against a black Obama.

If you are being honest with yourself, there is really only one way to explain this. You can explain the loss by saying Democrats didn't do well in Kentucky, but you can't explain the margin of loss any other way, imo. You cannot get around the fact that Obama ran far worse than he should have in southern states, including Kentucky.

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Old 11-12-2009, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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Why did Kentucky swing more to the GOP than most other states in 2008?

Wasnt cause Osama was black now was it lol
No, it wasn't because BHO is black. It was because Kentucky knew he was a socialist Chicago crook.

Black men and women in Kentucky have always been leaders and Kentucky was the first state to open its doors to civil rights. Kentucky Senator, Governor and statesman A.B. Chandler opened the doors to integrated baseball while he was Major League Baseball Commissioner. In 1958, I started first grade. My rural western Kentucky school was integrated long before Chicago or NY schools.

Stop slamming KY for racism that doesn't exist. Sure there is racism in this state as there is in every other state in the nation, but most of the racism comes from blacks, not from whites.
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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No, it wasn't because BHO is black. It was because Kentucky knew he was a socialist Chicago crook.
I think that had something to do with it. Not everything, but something. Obama is no more liberal than Kerry, and Kerry swept the Kentucky Dem primary in 2004 while Obama got trounced more than two-to-one by Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton! And in some rural counties, she won 90% to 6%. I have difficulty believing Hillary is that popular in Kentucky. I mean, wasn't she the anti-Christ for the far right for years?

In 2004, Kerry did almost as well against a popular incumbent President (at the time in Kentucky, in any case) as did Obama, running in a landslide Democratic election, did against an unpopular non-incumbent. John Kerry, for goodness sake! You know, the guy rated the most liberal Senator in the Senate.

McConnell's white Democratic opponent did much better than did Obama in the 2008 Senatorial race against Mitch McConnell, the popular and powerful incumbent. I don't see how else you explain Mitch McConnell's opponent running better than Obama did. And McConnell's opponent was a very unattractive candidate, imo.

I find it odd that only in Kentucky and other southern states was it decided that Obama was a "socialist crook", while he won an electoral landslide every where else. The rest of the country goes for (or almost goes for) Obama but he does poorly in just the south? I have trouble believing that is a coincidence. Heck, he almost won Montana! And he did win in traditionally strong GOP states like Indiana. But the deep south and any state with Appalachia in it? Nope.

And I don't think that recognizing that Kentucky could have a problem in this area is slamming Kentucky. If it's true, then it isn't a slam. And I believe that, to some extent, it's true. I don't see how you explain these results any other way.

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Old 11-13-2009, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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I think that had something to do with it. Not everything, but something. Obama is no more liberal than Kerry, and Kerry swept the Kentucky Dem primary in 2004 while Obama got trounced more than two-to-one by Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton! And in some rural counties, she won 90% to 6%. I have difficulty believing Hillary is that popular in Kentucky. I mean, wasn't she the anti-Christ for the far right for years?

Kerry did almost as well against a popular incumbent President (at the time in Kentucky, in any case) as did Obama, running in a landslide Democratic election, did against an unpopular non-incumbent. John Kerry, for goodness sake! You know, the guy rated the most liberal Senator in the Senate.

McConnell's white Democratic opponent did much better than did Obama in the 2008 Senatorial race against Mitch McConnell, the popular and powerful incumbent. I don't see how else you explain Mitch McConnell's opponent running better than Obama did. And McConnell's opponent was a very unattractive candidate, imo.

I find it odd that only in Kentucky and other southern states was it decided that he was a "socialist crook", while he won't an electoral landslide every where else. I have trouble believing that is a coincidence.

And I don't think that recognizing that Kentucky could have a problem in this area is slamming Kentucky. If it's true, then it isn't a slam. And I believe that, to some extent, it's true. I don't see how you explain these results any other way.
While you are making some good points, Kentucky, as a state, has always had a leadership role in civil rights across all groups whether race, religion, creed, etc.
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