View Poll Results: Louisville, KY.... southern or midwestern?
Southern
31 47.69%
MidWestern
34 52.31%
05-22-2007, 08:49 PM
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Rawlings
We've got plenty of Waffle Houses here in Colorado. I think it's more of a middle-American phenomenon than a southern thing, exactly.
Me too to tell you the truth.
05-22-2007, 08:52 PM
Location: Southern California
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It may have spread out that way, but its a southern thing....sorry. They started in Georgia and are mostly in still in the southeast. I think its pretty well documented that its a symbol of southern culture. But I know they are out that way. Its just like, we have culvers in illinois now. Things change.
to the op..I am really sorry I changed the subject
but I stand by my words
05-22-2007, 09:00 PM
Location: St. Louis, MO
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rgb123
It may have spread out that way, but its a southern thing....sorry. They started in Georgia and are mostly in still in the southeast. I think its pretty well documented that its a symbol of southern culture. But I know they are out that way. Its just like, we have culvers in illinois now. Things change.
to the op..I am really sorry I changed the subject
but I stand by my words
You're actually right. I take it back. I meant it only as mid-America thing as it has spread further north over the years. But yes it is originally Southern and apparantly they are most common in the South. Cleveland has five of them....that shows you how far north they've spread and the appeal they appear to be having. If they are in Toledo, how much longer before they start appearing in Michigan. It's only a matter of time before Illinois begins getting more in my opinion. THey've already got Cracker Barrel in over half the state, who's to say the Waffle House won't make it up there? With Missouri and Indiana making up the majority of its eastern and western borders it seems inevitable. I'm looking forward to it if sweet tea does make it up to St. Louis restaurants besides those of Cracker Barrel. I love that stuff and have to drive 120 miles southeast to Carbondale, Illinois or over 100 miles due south in Missouri from St. Louis to get it in restaurants besides Cracker Barrel. Time is more than overdue for culture to start being shared a little more. But I guess that would kill the whole idea and purpose of a vacation wouldn't it.
05-22-2007, 09:07 PM
Location: Southern California
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http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/n....jsp?id=h-1935
http://media.www.browndailyherald.com/media/storage/paper472/news/2007/01/25/Columns/South.Of.The.Waffle.House.Line-2677589.shtml (broken link)
http://www.flakmag.com/misc/wafflehouse.html
but there are literally tons of articles that discuss the southerness of the waffle house
Anyway, afj -- I saw advertisments at McDonald's when I was in Kentucky and Tennesee (even one over the border in Indiana -- Jeffersonville actually) that they are now selling Sweet Tea!
05-22-2007, 09:47 PM
Location: St. Louis, MO
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http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/n....jsp?id=h-1935
http://media.www.browndailyherald.com/media/storage/paper472/news/2007/01/25/Columns/South.Of.The.Waffle.House.Line-2677589.shtml (broken link)
http://www.flakmag.com/misc/wafflehouse.html
but there are literally tons of articles that discuss the southerness of the waffle house
Anyway, afj -- I saw advertisments at McDonald's when I was in Kentucky and Tennesee (even one over the border in Indiana -- Jeffersonville actually) that they are now selling Sweet Tea!
Wouldn't surprise me considering Cloverdale, Indiana has sweet tea in restaurants other than Cracker Barrel. Indiana as I said before has the most sweet tea of any state in the Midwest i've ever seen, significantly more than Missouri, Illinois, or Ohio. Illinois has it only really far south like in Carbondale. Missouri has it maybe starting around Cape Girardeau which is basically very far south in the state but it's not any further north than that. Even Joplin, Missouri didn't have sweet tea until very recently (Ask my father, he grew up there). Oh well. there are better places than Mickey D's for sweet tea. in any case, for the Waffle House articles, I'm not disputing that it's not a Southern thing, it clearly began in the South, but it's clearly no longer a regional thing that is for sure. What with them being in Indianapolis, St. Louis, Columbus, Toledo Cincinnati, Kansas City, and Cleveland and there being significantly more than just one in all these cities and their presence in Colorado far from dismissable, suggests to me that they have really spread out over the years to the north and west. And they've had quite a bit of time to do so as well. How Illinois excluding the STL metro (which is not Southern, btw,IMHO, neither is Columbus, southern culture overlap is nonexistent and I have relatives in both cities and have resided in STL for over 20 years, nothing personal, just my opinion), has not caught on is very strange indeed considering Indiana, Ohio, and Missouri are beginning to bulk up with them! You'd think most of Illinois would've followed suit. It seems like it's only a matter of time before Michigan gets them, i think they may already even have one!
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05-22-2007, 09:50 PM
Location: St. Louis, MO
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rgb123
http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/n....jsp?id=h-1935
http://media.www.browndailyherald.com/media/storage/paper472/news/2007/01/25/Columns/South.Of.The.Waffle.House.Line-2677589.shtml (broken link)
http://www.flakmag.com/misc/wafflehouse.html
but there are literally tons of articles that discuss the southerness of the waffle house
Anyway, afj -- I saw advertisments at McDonald's when I was in Kentucky and Tennesee (even one over the border in Indiana -- Jeffersonville actually) that they are now selling Sweet Tea!
Doesn't surprise me...Kentucky and Tennessee are Southern states, so why wouldn't every restaurant have sweet tea. Louisville has plenty of it. The parts of Southern Indiana, Southern Illinois, and Southern Missouri which border Southern states also have sweet tea. Southern Indiana has it almost all the way up to Indy! None of what you're telling me is new, but in any case, I wish I didn't have to go so far south to get sweet tea. I'd rather get sweet tea at a decent restaurant and not have Cracker Barrel as my only option. Closest place to me in Missouri which offers sweet tea and is not a Cracker Barrel is in Sikeston, Missouri which is over 150 miles to the south of me almost in the Missouri bootheel.
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05-22-2007, 10:03 PM
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Anyways let's get back to the main discussion which is about Louisville and Kentucky.
05-23-2007, 06:32 AM
Location: Kentucky
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rgb123
Anyway, afj -- I saw advertisments at McDonald's when I was in Kentucky and Tennesee (even one over the border in Indiana -- Jeffersonville actually) that they are now selling Sweet Tea!
They must have gooten tired of people asking for it! lol
05-23-2007, 06:46 PM
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ajf131
Since when have Waffle Houses been used as a way to define The South? I find those all over the United States!
Don't you read The Onion? They had a headline several months ago, something like, "Mason-Dixon Line Replaced By Waffle House-IHOP Line".
05-23-2007, 06:49 PM
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I remember waffle houses in Indiana and Illinois back in the early 70s.
Are you sure? I traveled extensively thru both states during that era and never saw a Waffle House in either.
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People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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