Conservative/moderate conservatice considering a move to Madison, will I run into issues? (Milwaukee: universities, wage)

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Originally Posted by lookoutbehindyou1992

Oh...I see. It's a shame because Wisconsin is such a beautiful state and Madison looks just so perfect but I don't think I would be happy having to deal with frankly, such intolerance. I don't want to make myself out to be persecuted or something and I am not even that political but I'm not fond of hypocrisy (ie. People that will preach tolerance, unless you disagree with them). I was raised to be polite and show respect for everyone's opinions regardless of how I feel about it and I don't mind have a spirited, yet civil and respectful debate at the appropriate time and place but honestly right now I'm living in a place where speaking honestly about my opinions makes it socially acceptable to ridicule me, ostracize me and be on the receiving end of ad hominem attacks. I'm sick of that plus having no legitimate voice in communuty affairs....I really really don't want to cross Madison off my list because I have a thing for the upper Midwest and its the only city up that I would even consider in that region, that has an office I could transfer too (offices in MKE and the twin cities as well but I have been to MKE and although the burbs are nice I didn't like the city, and the twin cities doesn't have the vibe I want either.)


Thanks to you for replying and giving me some honest into. Have a great night!

The political misfits will be found anywhere in Madison since so many people have state jobs, work in education and the like. There were people dumb enough to spray paint their windows during the recall garbage to demand the recall of Walker. You were able to find those windows spray painted in any area community.

There is a mix of the misfits and conservative people since people from other areas of the state moved to Madison to find work and college graduates tend not to leave. A lot of managers in the city graduated from Madison and mostly want to hire UW Madison graduates.

[trailerguy]

There is no place in Wisconsin where you would be uncomfortable being conservative. This state is solid red now. Don't worry.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by trailerguy

There is no place in Wisconsin where you would be uncomfortable being conservative. This state is solid red now. Don't worry.

That would not be correct, there are certainly areas of Wisconsin that are more liberal than conservative. The political leadership of the state has allowed the brain drain to accelerate, and job growth remains below average.

[InnovativeAmerican]

While Madison-proper is more liberal than elsewhere in Dane County, even the suburbs and exurbs swing democratic. I'd driven through Middleton many times during the 2012 presidential election season, and it was common to see yard signs endorsing Obama/Biden. Even most of the wards in Verona went at least 60% for Hillary during the last election. (The ward with the biggest percentage of Hillary voters was 66%, I think). Dane County is an oddball.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by InnovativeAmerican

While Madison-proper is more liberal than elsewhere in Dane County, even the suburbs and exurbs swing democratic. I'd driven through Middleton many times during the 2012 presidential election season, and it was common to see yard signs endorsing Obama/Biden. Even most of the wards in Verona went at least 60% for Hillary during the last election. (The ward with the biggest percentage of Hillary voters was 66%, I think). Dane County is an oddball.

Dane County has generally always been a progressive liberal area, and it is one of the main reasons the state of Wisconsin has continued to gain jobs and population relative to states like Michigan or Ohio that have growth rates half as much this decade. IT, Healthcare, Engineering, Education, etc continue to be strong drivers for Madison region growth in addition to the public sector.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

Dane County has generally always been a progressive liberal area, and it is one of the main reasons the state of Wisconsin has continued to gain jobs and population relative to states like Michigan or Ohio that have growth rates half as much this decade. IT, Healthcare, Engineering, Education, etc continue to be strong drivers for Madison region growth in addition to the public sector.

If it wasn't for Madison, WI would be like Alabama. Madison supports the entire state.

[Milwaukee City]

Originally Posted by timberline742

If it wasn't for Madison, WI would be like Alabama. Madison supports the entire state.

Most of Madison is government and UW. So the tax payers of the rest of the state support Madison. Money makers -vs- money takers.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee City

Most of Madison is government and UW. So the tax payers of the rest of the state support Madison. Money makers -vs- money takers.

That is not quite the case. Dane County continues to have faster job growth and population growth than anywhere else in the state, and has been the case for many years. People continue to move there due to economic opportunities.

[guidoLaMoto]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

That is not quite the case. Dane County continues to have faster job growth and population growth than anywhere else in the state, and has been the case for many years. People continue to move there due to economic opportunities.

The whole state is crying for workers. Jobs are getting filled in Dane/Madison because that's where the population is to fill them. The rest of the state doesn't seem to have job growth in the statistics because the empty positions aren't being filled.

Also note that job growth in WI is limited by (a) low population growth compared to other states and [2] having lost fewer jobs during the Great Recession than other states, fewer coming back. In that light, WI is way ahead of other states in employment now.

Furthermore, most job growth in the country of late has been in the service industries. Most of WI is rural. Farmers don't need others to mow their lawns, serve their fast food or do their cooking.

[Rynldsbr]

Originally Posted by guidoLaMoto

The whole state is crying for workers. Jobs are getting filled in Dane/Madison because that's where the population is to fill them. The rest of the state doesn't seem to have job growth in the statistics because the empty positions aren't being filled. Please enlighten me where these wonderful jobs are. I search Indeed for professional positions, Director of Operations for example, and find little to nothing at a salary that supports a family. The jobs available in WI are service sector or entry level labor that doesn't pay enough to entice people to move there. Trust me, I left after 45 years to find a career path that could include retirement someday.

Also note that job growth in WI is limited by (a) low population growth compared to other states and [2] having lost fewer jobs during the Great Recession than other states, fewer coming back. In that light, WI is way ahead of other states in employment now. Population growth is happening where there are jobs. We dont move away because we want to leave our families and friends, we move away because we want to eat and buy homes. Wherever you imagined WI lost fewer jobs than other states, go hit that pipe again. It may have been slower paced losses and smaller companies, but WI lost plenty and they aren't rushing back. FoxCon is a scam to get free stuff from Walker and friends, and those will be some really expensive jobs in the end.

Furthermore, most job growth in the country of late has been in the service industries. Not in Texas, Portland/Seattle, or SoCal.Most of WI is rural. Farmers don't need others to mow their lawns, serve their fast food or do their cooking.

The state is crying for entry level workers, nurses, and a handful of welders. Read the ads and look at what is actually hiring and what the wage rates are.