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Old 05-04-2008, 12:41 PM
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Question Need advice on housing

Hello all,

I will be moving to Madison this summer for grad school and would like some advice on housing options. Mainly, I'd like to be far enough away from campus that I can escape any sort of undergrad party scene. Ideally, I'd like to be within a 15-30 minute walking distance of my building (Chamberlain Hall, east side of campus), but I'm not sure if that's too close to the undergrads.

Could anyone give me a rough ideas of what parts of town are quiet and safe? Any other recommendations or advice would also be greatly appreciated. This is my first big move into a new city so I'm a little bit overwhelmed with shopping for an apartment that I can't visit first.
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Old 05-04-2008, 05:34 PM
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It depends a bit on how far away from the undergrads you want to be, but for the east side, anything east of the capitol is away from the heavy party areas, and anything east of oh, Blount, will be almost entirely young professionals, grad students, and families. That still gives you a pretty good area to be looking at apartments; I lived near the Yahara River and it took me exactly 30 minutes to get from locking my front door to walking into the office, by bus.

I'm less good with the west side, but from what I've seen anything west of about the hospital is pretty quiet. The areas you want to really actively avoid are close to the stadium, and the general area between campus and the Capitol. More than a block or two south of Regent the whole way along that street is usually well-kept, as well.
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Hi newuwgrad,

I feel your pain because I'm going through the same thing - I'm graduating from UW in soon and starting at U. of Delaware in the fall. I eventually gave up looking for housing over the internet and applied for university housing!

I would venture to say that MOST areas within walking distance of your department will be noisy and undergrad-filled. Many grad students live further west on a busline in the Hilldale Mall/Sheboygan Avenue area, near the Department of Transportation. While these buildings are not new, this is a safe area, easily accesible from campus, and is popular with grad students.

Hopefully someone can give you more specific recommendations if you do want to live closer.
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I spent five years working for a campus-area landlord, and I can certainly attest to what others have said, that the closer you are to the university, the more hard-partying students you'll find as neighbors.

You definitely want to avoid the State Street area, Langdon Street (a/k/a Frat Row), most of West Gilman, West Gorham and West Johnson Streets, from about the zero block to about the 2000 block. That's the area that tchemgrrl describes as being between the campus and the capitol, and she is entirely correct in describing it as full of undergrads. The area around the stadium is also an area that I would avoid; you'll find people having tail-gater parties on your front lawn starting at 7:30 a.m. on game days.

If you're looking at a map of Madison, look for the very center of town where the capitol is and draw a line from it to each of the lakes. You've just identified where Wisconsin Avenue goes up to Lake Mendota and where Martin Luther King Avenue goes down to Lake Monona. Anything east of there is going to be progressively less and less undergrad focused; there'll still be younger students there, but the hardest partiers want to be as close as possible to State Street and Frat Row.

Most of the rental housing stock in that area has seen better days, to be brutally honest. The newest buildings you'll find are at least 4 or 5 decades old, and there are plenty of century-old homes that have been split up into a bunch of small student apartments. Some are well kept, some aren't; a lot depends on the landlord, of course.

You should definitely check in with the folks at Tenant Resource Center in the early stages of your hunt. The Tenant Resource Center operates as both an intermediary service between tenants and landlords, and as a sort of Better Business Bureau for landlords. They can tell you whether a property owner takes good care of his buildings and treats his tenants right, or if he's a slumlord. The city of Madison is extremely tenant-friendly; there are all sorts of ordinances on the books that protect tenants from predatory landlords, and the Tenant Resource Center can tell you all about them.

Also, another site that you'll want to visit before you sign a lease is this one: Average Energy Use and Cost for Residential Addresses . You can learn the highest, the lowest and the average energy cost for any address in the city there, and if your lease requires you to pay for your own heat or electricity, you'd better do your homework before you sign on the dotted line. Some buildings can cost you more for heat than you pay in rent.

Good luck to you in your hunt! My sister came here for grad school about a decade and a half ago, and in fact rented an apartment sight unseen from Baltimore, where she did her undergrad work at Hopkins, so I know that it can be done successfully. Just keep in mind that nothing locks you in to staying at the same apartment for your entire grad school career; if you decide you're not fond of the neighborhood or the building, you can always move in a year. We'll watch for you later this summer!
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Old 05-24-2008, 04:20 PM
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Thanks for the info everyone, it has been very helpful. My apartment search got delayed for a few weeks, but now that I'm looking again, I have a few more questions...

About how long would you say it takes to get from the Willy/Jenifer St. area to the east side of campus by bike/bus?

Is the W. Main / Doty St. area as bad as the rest of the "between campus and capitol" area?

Is the Hancock / Franklin St. area nice/safe?

Anyone have any experience with campus-owned housing?

Thanks again for the recommendations!
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