Again, What's Happening in Madison? (Milwaukee, Middleton: fit in, sale, apartments)

[Milwaukee City]

Wisconsin court upholds GPS tracking by police -- chicagotribune.com

MADISON, Wis. - Wisconsin police can attach GPS to cars to secretly track anybody's movements without obtaining search warrants, an appeals court ruled Thursday.

Let's ad this to the list of Madison goofy laws and ordinances, I'm trying to think of all of them:

1. Ban Drive Thru's
2. Letting homeless people live in their cars and park wherever they wanted
3. Pot just a misdemeanor
4. Making it illegal to idle your car in your driveway in winter
5. Ban Smoking
6. to open the door of a parked or standing vehicle into traffic without checking to make sure it’s safe.
7. ban the sale of beer and malt liquor in amounts less than a six-pack of bottles, liquor in the amounts of 200 milliliters or less and the sale of fortified wine for consumption off the premises on which it was sold.
8. Oh you want chickens in your city backyard sure go ahead
9. Inclusionary zoning law- very new housing development contains some affordable housing. Madison became the first city in Wisconsin to pass such an ordinance.

Now that's progressive! now I admit I don't know if all of thee above have been passed or repealed but I know they were all at least proposed.

Is Madison smoking their own wacky tobacky or is it just the politicians or do people in Madison actually want all the laws or ordinances they pass?

[gold*dust1]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee City

Wisconsin court upholds GPS tracking by police -- chicagotribune.com

MADISON, Wis. - Wisconsin police can attach GPS to cars to secretly track anybody's movements without obtaining search warrants, an appeals court ruled Thursday.

Let's ad this to the list of Madison goofy laws and ordinances, I'm trying to think of all of them:

1. Ban Drive Thru's
2. Letting homeless people live in their cars and park wherever they wanted
3. Pot just a misdemeanor
4. Making it illegal to idle your car in your driveway in winter
5. Ban Smoking
6. to open the door of a parked or standing vehicle into traffic without checking to make sure it’s safe.
7. ban the sale of beer and malt liquor in amounts less than a six-pack of bottles, liquor in the amounts of 200 milliliters or less and the sale of fortified wine for consumption off the premises on which it was sold.
8. Oh you want chickens in your city backyard sure go ahead
9. Inclusionary zoning law- very new housing development contains some affordable housing. Madison became the first city in Wisconsin to pass such an ordinance.

Now that's progressive! now I admit I don't know if all of thee above have been passed or repealed but I know they were all at least proposed.

Is Madison smoking their own wacky tobacky or is it just the politicians or do people in Madison actually want all the laws or ordinances they pass?

Ban drive thru's?? C'mon common sense alone will tell you that will never happen. They just built a Sonic in yuppity wanna be Middleton for cripes sake!

Illegal to idle your car?? I have never heard that and good luck in enforcing that one

A small amount of pot being a misdemenor for an adult?? That's a good thing but could be further improved upon...NEXT

My HOA would never allow chickens in the backyard thank god No homeless allowed camping overnight either!

Checking for safety before opening a door into traffic?? Again common sense...everyone should already know that...so I have no problem with it.

Your post is kinda silly Milwcity...but carry on if you must. Progressive is as progressive does.

[Drover]

This has nothing to do with Madison specifically. This was a ruling by a federal district court and is effective throughout the entire district. Drive-thrus are not banned. Neither is the sale of beer in less than six-packs -- I buy beer in singles there all the time. It is not illegal to idle your car in the driveway. Nobody gets to park wherever they want, even the homeless. So in conclusion -- what the hell are you talking about?

[mommyntheoc]

I'm pretty sure this would be a privacy violation and if taken to the supreme court, ultimately, would be disallowed. It just won't matter until it is used to prove something that otherwise wouldn't have a chance to stand on it's own...then it might cause some problems big enough to get to a higher court. I wonder how that judge would like to be tracked? Perhaps once their secret outtings were uncovered, they would want to rule a different way...it's much easier for people to judge when it doesn't apply to them (or they think it doesn't).

Now as far as the other "goofy" laws...I don't think they are all goofy! Here's my take, it might help you see a different POV...and I know Milwaukee City and I are on opposite sides of the spectrum...but it is nice to step over the fence and take a peek every now and then to grow personally, yes? :-D


***Ban Drive Thrus - well, Americans are obese and honestly, if you are going out to get fast food, chances are higher you are one of those heading towards obesity. It could be healthy for you to be forced to get out of your car to get your food...and savor (and save) some fresh air while you're at it!

***Would you rather have homeless people living in shelters you are paying for? Would you rather have them sleeping behind your house in an alley? Or illegally in a vacant house that then burns down from burning inside for heat? No, you would rather not have homeless people altogether, right? Well...then that should really be of more concern, how to stop homelessness and help fellow humans rather than how to avoid the inconvenience of having to see them. Even if they have lost their home, they ARE people...you can drive anywhere in your car and park it just as they can, it is shameful that people are only viewed as worthy of rights if they are "clean"

***Why is marijuana illegal? Why not just put limits on it and go on with life...there are so many other issues to worry about than someone consuming a plant...seriously.

***Idling the car in winter wouldn't be necessary if the city implemented a plan to provide engine heaters to everyone :-p if they are serious about that one, they really should be doing something to help people with their needs.

***Smoking ban...this is pretty important to me because smoking has been proven over and over again to be a killer, especially to people who don't have the filter to breathe through and no choice (2nd hand smoke). It is a basic human right to breathe....and I think it should be attempted murder if you force someone to inhale a known poison. There is no safe level of smoke and it is NOT necessary for anything, it is simply a wasteful choice (and selfish one). I always wonder if you want to kill yourself smoking, why smokers can't be less selfish and choose a way to committ suicide without killing everyone else in the process? Smokers are just bored or stressed people, they need healthier outlets that don't affect others' health (and the environment) so greatly.

***Opening the door is just common sense...if you don't check to see if it is safe, the world is less one more low IQ person LOL - seriously, how could this be a law, they would all be too dumb to read the law if they were too dumb to not check for traffic before stepping into it. Geesh. LOL this is humorous! :-D who thought to write this law and sponsor it??

***Liquor law...wow, this would be the first time I've seen an alcohol MINIMUM law, not maximum...I guess alcohol is a favorite pasttime there and big money for the state???

***Chickens...now I like this one...it would be great if you could have pet chickens to raise and be self-sufficient. They're a lot safer than pitbulls and cats jumping over fences and doing their thang in everyone else's gardens! Why don't you like this one? Is this a law already? I'd love to have chickens in the city! :-D

***affordable housing - yeah, this one actually throws me both ways...while it attempts to equalize all...it will ultimately keep housing prices from appreciating as much as they could. As an outsider, I was really disturbed to not be able to find a neighborhood without duplexes and apartments connected to it...I'm sure this helps the crime statistics though, and from what I can find, Madison really likes their #s....they are in denial even when there is a crime occuring from what I've read about those murders from last year. I disagree with this law...there have always been different villages in the world and some separation is okay...if there is no reason to "move up in the world" as far as housing, everyone would just stay where they are and lose motivation.

So there we go...I don't live in Madison yet...3 more weeks to go :-D
I don't know if I'll fit in with my strong viewpoints above...but...that's how someone 2000 miles outside of WI feels...so perhaps they aren't so wacky afterall...

Originally Posted by Milwaukee City

Wisconsin court upholds GPS tracking by police -- chicagotribune.com

MADISON, Wis. - Wisconsin police can attach GPS to cars to secretly track anybody's movements without obtaining search warrants, an appeals court ruled Thursday.

Let's ad this to the list of Madison goofy laws and ordinances, I'm trying to think of all of them:

1. Ban Drive Thru's
2. Letting homeless people live in their cars and park wherever they wanted
3. Pot just a misdemeanor
4. Making it illegal to idle your car in your driveway in winter
5. Ban Smoking
6. to open the door of a parked or standing vehicle into traffic without checking to make sure it’s safe.
7. ban the sale of beer and malt liquor in amounts less than a six-pack of bottles, liquor in the amounts of 200 milliliters or less and the sale of fortified wine for consumption off the premises on which it was sold.
8. Oh you want chickens in your city backyard sure go ahead
9. Inclusionary zoning law- very new housing development contains some affordable housing. Madison became the first city in Wisconsin to pass such an ordinance.

Now that's progressive! now I admit I don't know if all of thee above have been passed or repealed but I know they were all at least proposed.

Is Madison smoking their own wacky tobacky or is it just the politicians or do people in Madison actually want all the laws or ordinances they pass?

[Milwaukee City]

***Chickens...now I like this one...it would be great if you could have pet chickens to raise and be self-sufficient. They're a lot safer than pitbulls and cats jumping over fences and doing their thang in everyone else's gardens! Why don't you like this one? Is this a law already? I'd love to have chickens in the city! :-D

Well in Milwaukee inner city we have to share yards sometimes where each house is next to each other but with the front of the house facing the opposite way(IE: Head to toe sleeping style)
So when I used to live on the south side in Milwaukee's Latin Quarter my neighbor had chickens which were illegal but I wasn't going to rat them out but they had like 12 chickens and just walking to my yard was like walking through a chicken farm and noisy as well. If I had owned my house there I probably would have bought a mean street kitty to clean the yard if you know what I mean.

[mommyntheoc]

hehe Milwaukee...you crack me up!! :-D

I could imagine how annoying that would be if they are in a shared yard and your neighbor didn't have the courtesy to consult with you prior to becoming a chicken farmer! I wouldn't want to be forced to wad through ducks (and their leftovers) in an enclosed space to get to my front door.

I think neighborhoods with such setups should definitely have rules to maintain a pleasant environment for all, but if you have a private yard that only your family uses...I think it is a great idea to homegrow your own chickens (and veggies)!

Maybe if you'd befriended the neighbor and shared your concerns, you could've enjoyed a homegrown friend chicken together, you could've picked the noisiest of the bunch! :-D

[Milwaukee City]

Maybe if you'd befriended the neighbor and shared your concerns, you could've enjoyed a homegrown friend chicken together, you could've picked the noisiest of the bunch! :-D

Ha we did befriend and so I went over to their house and they said....EAT and I ate.....COW TONGUE!!!!

[mommyntheoc]

Oh nice, never had that, was it better than friend chicken? hehe See...there are benefits to chickens in your backyard...they bring people together, community, for cow tongue :-p

[financewizard]

I like how all these hippy liberals want to take away all of our rights and tell us what is best for us, except they all want pot legalized????

[gold*dust1]

Originally Posted by financewizard

I like how all these hippy liberals want to take away all of our rights and tell us what is best for us, except they all want pot legalized????

Which of your rights have been taken away? I don't get it I hate this hippy liberal crap...I see very few "hippys" these days. Now if you want to see lesbians c'mon on down

I am not or never was a hippy (actually several years before my time) and I think weed should be completely decriminalized. To me it is certainly no worse than alchohol and that drug is perfectly acceptable.