Mandatory Health Insurance? (Union, Penobscot: pharmacy, incomes, organic)

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by broadbill

maybe they don't put the same emphasis on dental health that we do, especially when it comes to cosmetic dental issues.




They don't have the restrictive public smoking laws we do (which I agree is a bad thing).



Europe=socialism=bad. Got it. They couldn't possibly have a good idea that American's hadn't already thought of first.

They make better cars than we do but it stops there IMO.

[Zymer]

Originally Posted by broadbill

This is interesting. You have to ask yourself the question then if the government can administer such a program for its veterans, why can't it do the same for everyone else? Or, why can't a private insurance company do this?

What's the difference?

One thing that struck me is that many veterans see a corpsman as their primary care provider. Most non-military Americans have gotten used to seeing an MD as their primary care provider. This has always seemed kinda silly to me. Frankly it doesn't take an MD to diagnose 99% of the cases out there.

I have never seen my primary care MD, just a PA (or NP, whichever it is). It was for a follow-up after the pneumonia.

The only times I have seen an MD were two trips to the Walk In/Urgent Care clinic, once for an advanced UTI and once for pneumonia which hadn't cleared up after two weeks of OTC meds.

[dmyankee]

Originally Posted by Roland 544

So misguided....need to leave the Country once in a while.

The Euros are broke because of their lack of production ie: 6/8 weeks of vacation and 2 hour lunches. If they would work more it would help them, however, why not hanging at Cafe's and beaches 1/3 of a Year? ( quality of life...)they Wont burn out like us, I garantee you that + no worry about Healthcare, perfect situation for "the People". BTW We are broke just the same who won that one.....

Welcome to France, voted the best place in the world to live for the fifth year in a row by International Living magazine, which has been analyzing data and publishing its annual Quality of Life Index for 30 years.
One of the reasons France keeps winning the ranking is its world-class health care system, which Dupouy just experienced first-hand.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! I think ALL the Dirigo and Obamacare advocates should move there and just enjoy themselves.

[RHB]

Originally Posted by broadbill

This is interesting. You have to ask yourself the question then if the government can administer such a program for its veterans, why can't it do the same for everyone else? Or, why can't a private insurance company do this?

What's the difference?

One thing that struck me is that many veterans see a corpsman as their primary care provider. Most non-military Americans have gotten used to seeing an MD as their primary care provider. This has always seemed kinda silly to me. Frankly it doesn't take an MD to diagnose 99% of the cases out there.

I have the same question...maybe that's the answer...expand the tricare program. I do believe tricare is subsidised by federal funds, but still, it should be doable....

BTW - I have a NP as my primary...but that was my choice.

[cebdark]

Originally Posted by broadbill

This is interesting. You have to ask yourself the question then if the government can administer such a program for its veterans, why can't it do the same for everyone else? Or, why can't a private insurance company do this?

What's the difference?

One thing that struck me is that many veterans see a corpsman as their primary care provider. Most non-military Americans have gotten used to seeing an MD as their primary care provider. This has always seemed kinda silly to me. Frankly it doesn't take an MD to diagnose 99% of the cases out there.

That's a good question. I wonder if it's because "We The People" tend to back Veterans more, and/or that Medicare is so mired down in confounding language and ridiculous rules (such as answering a Medicare question 100% if you are a provider or risking having the whole claim booted and put back in line for resubmitting).

It seems there are a lot more rules and regulations and block payments (example: Medicare will only pay for X amount of days regardless of how many actual days you are admitted and vise versa if you are not in for as long as the "block" of days are allowed). It seems very "push/pull" with regard to how they pay or don't pay.

I agree completely with the fact that 99% of diagnosis doesn't require an MD.

[retiredtinbender]

Make Congress use the same health care/insurance as "we the people" and see how fast their little bulbous butts jump into action to actually fix things. As long as they get their "fat-cat" healthcare look for more rules and regs. But don't neglect to look at the people who actually DO scam the systems as a problem. I still say tort law needs fixing first.

[RiverBird]

Originally Posted by kevin5098

Health insurance coverage is mandatory in MA. The recently passed Federal health care reform package does not mandate individual coverage until 2014.

There are ways out of it in Mass, Read the fine print on the Mass. state forms.

[Zarathu]

Originally Posted by newenglandgirl

There are ways out of it in Mass, Read the fine print on the Mass. state forms.

AllState insurance needs to change their name from AllState to AllState-But-Mass.

Insurance regualtions are so convoluted in MA that only the local insurance companies are willing to brave it.

And transferring insurance and title for daughter to MA car from PA car, actually required that she not drive for three days because they refused to transfer coverage nd title without actually paerwork IN HAND, not FAXes, not anything but real paper. It was bizarre. We had to FedEx the paperwork in Next day, but it also took them 2 addl days after having it to set it up.

She drove anyway because she had to or she would lose her job, but that made no difference to the MA bureaucracy.

[Roland 544]

Originally Posted by Maineah

Why is it that Irish, French , English and many Germans have really bad teeth? It is due to their great health care system??? Or lack of dentists? I know these people personally. The Irish ones come from a wealthy family as do the English yet even the poor in this country have better dental health.

See where France lies in the area of smoking! They ALL smoke. My friend's wife just got back from France and said it was like going back into the 50's over there. Everyone smokes everywhere! Cafes', bars, restaurants, busses hotels, you name it....there's a healthy "lightyears ahead " behavior for you.

You can have France and all of Europe with my compliments. Feel free to move there anytime. Americans will not emulate Europe.

Like I said, misguided and ignorant,In France, Its is against the law to smoke in restaurants, bars etc ( about 3 Years already) You ever see Fat French people? Dont know about the teeth though..

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by Roland 544

Like I said, misguided and ignorant,In France, Its is against the law to smoke in restaurants, bars etc ( about 3 Years already) You ever see Fat French people? Dont know about the teeth though..

You're full of it! They smoke in Bars, Cafe's, and MOST restaurants all over France!!! Yes there is a ban in International HOTELS and restaurants but that's it! And that is up to the HOTEL not a national or regional ban! They wanted to do more but they were afraid of an UPRISING!
Misguided and Ignorant is a PERFECT way to describe the French!! How often do you go to France??? We have family and friends who have to go there for business bi-monthly and they all say the same thing. The French don't bathe, shave or wash daily. They are content with sitting on their a&&es collecting from the public dole. And yes there are PLENTY of Fat Frenchmen!!!! They are unproductive, totally anti-American, smoke like chimneys, IN PUBLIC PLACES, and could care less.
Go there with our compliments..... They will love you!