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Old 08-24-2010, 04:18 PM
 
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For almost ten-years, I've been checking out homes for sale in Maine using the internet.

And I cannot, for the life of me, understand the ridiculous asking price of many homes in Washington County, especially waterfront or even waterview homes.

Here's a typical example that turned up today--this one in Lubec: Our Listings

Meanwhile, compare that house, to this one in St. George, that COSTS LESS THAN THE LUBEC HOUSE IN THE ABOVE LINK: 555 Island Avenue Saint George, ME 04860 : RealEstateBook.com

And here's what I dont' get.

The St. George house has a lower asking price, is in much nicer condition, better adapted to modern living, likely more structurally sound from the foundation up, with plumbing and electric in better shape, better insulated, and would seem to me to be overall a better overall investment than the more expensive house in Lubec.

Granted, the Lubec house has a lot of acreage, but I see that as a liability unless you want to farm. But if someone were looking to buy farm, why would they spend 660K for that place?? You gotta sell a lot of tomatoes to pay for that.

So other than "bragging rights"--I can't see much use for owning all that land in a place where there's plenty of land for anyone to use for recreation.

Plus, when you own that much land, I would think it a burden.

If people dump stuff like old cars and refrigerators in your woods, it's your job to clean it up.

If drug dealers decide to grow pot in some remote corner of your woods, and the police find the pot plants, the police will come after you, and you'll have to spend money and resources to try to prove you didn't plant the pot, but tresspassers did.

And as much as I love old houses, the reality is a newer house makes much more sense, is much more practical, and is a better investment and money saving in the long run to buy a newer house, like the one in St. George. Although older houses generally express a more beautiful architectural design, they are never as efficient as newer homes.

Further, consider the two locations: St. George vs. Lubec.

Must be more jobs around in St. George than in Lubec.

Poverty is much higher in Lubec's Washington County than in Knox County. The average household income in St. George is almost two and a half times that of Lubec. The median home cost in St. George is $87K vs. 180K for St. George.

Along with high poverty, Washington County must also have higher drug use, too.

And what about high speed internet and other reliable communications with the outside world, if you're a potential buyer who doesn't need a local job because you telecommute? Where is such communication more widely available and reliable: Knox or Washington county?

I just don't get it.

I've seen this kind of thing a lot when comparing homes for sale.

The only thing I can think of is that there must be enough starry-eyed people in the other 49 states, who have money to burn and who have some kind of romantic vision when they see a house like that one in Lubec, and end up buying without stopping to do research or even to think.

Generally, if someone is looking for a home in a remote area, they usually get a big break in the price. But this rule seems to often defy common sense when it come to properties anywhere on the remoter parts of Maine's coast.

Is there something I'm missing? Can someone explain this to me?
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Old 08-24-2010, 04:45 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Simple solution; Stop looking in Washington County.

Doesn't sound like you have a particular interest in Washington County anyway, nor a complete grasp on the rural living concept. I'm not even going to touch the remark about how Washington County MUST have a bigger drug problem, how household income levels are an indication of how good an area is, or your many other statements about how bad/problematic it must be living there.
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Old 08-24-2010, 04:59 PM
 
Location: On a Slow-Sinking Granite Rock Up North
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You're purchasing the "Maine Experience"

Someone from some cramped, overpopulated, concrete corner of the US will pay those prices - eventually. It's slow now due to the economy obviously, but waterfront is still selling despite this fact. A relative's camp on a lake sold practically within days of his estate being settled - to an out-of-state couple looking to "get away from the rat race." It fetched a healthy price considering its condition.

I don't know about jobs in WC, but as far as drugs are concerned - oh, ha ha...they are everywhere. Why WA County keeps getting drummed as a "hot spot" as compared to practically everywhere else in Maine, I can't tell you. Maybe it's just less "tucked away" there.
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Old 08-24-2010, 05:00 PM
 
Location: God's Country, Maine
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Simple solution; Stop looking in Washington County.

Doesn't sound like you have a particular interest in Washington County anyway, nor a complete grasp on the rural living concept. I'm not even going to touch the remark about how Washington County MUST have a bigger drug problem, how household income levels are an indication of how good an area is, or your many other statements about how bad/problematic it must be living there.
Agreed. I'd keep looking farther East.
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Old 08-24-2010, 05:00 PM
 
Location: 3.5 sq mile island ant nest next to Canada
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Folks from the big city are paying top dollar for a small lot and large house. 35 acres is a lot but some folks are looking for that. And just because they are asking $660K doesn't mean they will get half that in the end.

We get a lot of retired folks up here. Something as big as the Lubec piece can be cut up into a lot of house lots and make your money back. Then again someone may want to have a dairy or a llama farm. Different strokes. Elbow room and not elbows touching like down your way.

Then again, these days everyone owns a gold mine. Looking for that flat lander sucker. That's a joke.
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Old 08-24-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: 3.5 sq mile island ant nest next to Canada
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Simple solution; Stop looking in Washington County.

Doesn't sound like you have a particular interest in Washington County anyway, nor a complete grasp on the rural living concept. I'm not even going to touch the remark about how Washington County MUST have a bigger drug problem, how household income levels are an indication of how good an area is, or your many other statements about how bad/problematic it must be living there.

Well put.
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Old 08-24-2010, 05:47 PM
 
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Well put.
Actually, wrongly put.

I prefer a rural environment.

But I'll be darned if I pay the same price or even more than what people pay for a comparable house in a more developed area.

I will never do that. That's plain crazy.

Rural area propety should by all rights be cheaper than comparable homes in more developed areas.

During those ten-years I've been watching RE ads, I've seen some of those overpriced homes in rural areas get sold, only to soon come on the market again. Sometimes I wonder how often they've changed hands in the past.

And I've seen others languish for years and years and still not be sold for the crazy asking price.

My suspicion is that whoever is selling them, has the time to wait however long for the right sucker to come along.

Kind of like buying a lottery ticket.
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Old 08-24-2010, 05:49 PM
 
Location: 43.55N 69.58W
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Agreed. I'd keep looking farther East.

MUCH further....

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Old 08-24-2010, 05:50 PM
 
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Simple solution; Stop looking in Washington County.

Doesn't sound like you have a particular interest in Washington County anyway, nor a complete grasp on the rural living concept. I'm not even going to touch the remark about how Washington County MUST have a bigger drug problem, how household income levels are an indication of how good an area is, or your many other statements about how bad/problematic it must be living there.
From the Bangor Daily News August 24, 2010:

"While the problem of drug abuse is severe in the entire state — law enforcement calls it the No. 1 reason behind crime — Washington County appears to be among the hardest hit."

Link to complete article: Drugs weigh heavily on Maine's poorest area, Washington County - Bangor Daily News (http://www.bangordailynews.com/story/Downeast/Drugs-weigh-heavily-on-Maines-poorest-area-Washington-County,151818 - broken link)

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Old 08-24-2010, 06:03 PM
 
Location: On a Slow-Sinking Granite Rock Up North
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From the Bangor Daily News August 24, 2010:

"While the problem of drug abuse is severe in the entire state — law enforcement calls it the No. 1 reason behind crime — Washington County appears to be among the hardest hit."

Link to complete article: Drugs weigh heavily on Maine's poorest area, Washington County - Bangor Daily News (http://www.bangordailynews.com/story/Downeast/Drugs-weigh-heavily-on-Maines-poorest-area-Washington-County,151818 - broken link)

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The Bangor Daily News tends not to look in their own back yard - just sayin' - there is a reason that there is not one, not two, but three Methadone clinics located in Bangor. Off topic, I know, so I'll drop it.

At any rate, I can understand why you're surprised at the prices here. The DH and I had kind of the opposite experience in upstate NY last week. We were shocked at how low the prices were on waterfront property for sale near Watertown.
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